Posted on 05/07/2011 9:27:55 PM PDT by tlb
May 21, "starting in the Pacific Rim at around the 6 p.m. local time hour, in each time zone, there will be a great earthquake,". The true Christian believers will be "raptured": They'll fly upward to heaven.
"and on top of all that, there's no more salvation at that point. 153 days later that the entire universe and planet Earth will be destroyed."
"I no longer think about 401(k)s and retirement," he says. "I'm just a lot less stressed, and in a way I'm more carefree."
Brown is married with several young children, and none of them shares his beliefs. It's caused a rift with his wife — but he says that, too, was predicted in the Bible.
But it appears that many became believers in 2009 after turning on Family Radio, a Christian network. Camping's predictions have inspired other groups to rally behind the May 21 date. People have quit their jobs and left their families to get the message out.
"Knowing the date of the end of the world changes all your future plans," says Adrienne Martinez.
She thought she'd go to medical school, until she began tuning in to Family Radio. She and her husband decided they wanted to spend their remaining time with their infant daughter.
"Why are we going to work for more money? "
"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," Adrienne adds.
I've asked a dozen of Camping's followers the same question. Everyone said even entertaining the possibility that May 21 would come and go without event is an offense to God. They all hope they'll be raptured.
"If I'm here on May 22, and I wake up, I'm going to be in hell," says Brown
On the other hand, he will presumably have lots of company.
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dammit, I’ve got something going on that weekend, can’t he push it out a few days?
He's not mocking God. He's mocking you.
FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It's a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.
But the end-of-the-world stuff... it's undermining an otherwise doctrinally-solid effort to get the Gospel out.
Mr. Camping, in my humble opinion, is a living reason why ministers and other teachers should study in seminary and stand on knowledge. The Bible is not a book that, in it's entirety, any single human being can claim to comprehend - especially in the area of eschatology! Otherwise, you get this...
What I find particularly interesting are those who come back to the faith or philosophy the day after the world did not end.
Camping is a false teacher and false prophet. He has already “predicted” the exact date of the end of the world—September 6, 1994.
Anyone who believes him is a fool.
Camping should repent, but since he has not done so since 1994 (as evidenced by his decision to propose a new date), it is unlikely that he will.
“This is terrible.”
And this is a woman who was going to be a doctor, so she’s not dumb.
I’ve met Mr. Camping on many occasions. A tall, gaunt, and austere gentleman, he. He comes across as a serious man but has a habit making such foolish predictions, as he did with his book, 1994?.
FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It’s a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.
I agree with you entirely. The network ministered to me a lot when I lived in San Diego.
I always thought it was quite cheeky of him to have AoG folks on his board and to get tons of money from them only to castigate them relentlessly for their theology being more or less from hell in his perspective.
I always thought
I’ve met Mr. Camping on many occasions. A tall, gaunt, and austere gentleman, he. He comes across as a serious man but has a habit making such foolish predictions, as he did with his book, 1994?.
FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It’s a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.
Except that I believe laymen can study with Holy Spirit’s aid and come up with insights and Biblical truths Semitary scholars and students miss.
06SEP94...
I remember that one.
Was at work, the world was supposed to end at noon that day.
I remembered it about a week later.
06SEP94...
I remember that one.
Was at work, the world was supposed to end at noon that day.
I remembered it about a week later.
Bummer! This ruins my vacation plans.
Sorry for the double post, got interrupted by a hunk of meatball stuck to my butt.
The pups like to bury things in the bed.
It is unsanitary, in the extreme.
The mystery can only be understood with the realization that God invented time and exists outside the boundaries of time. It is how free will and predestination can co-exist for if there is no free will, there could be no just punishment for unbelief. And if there was no predestination, no one could be considered God's chosen.
God knows the results before they happen because he exists beyond time.
That "crappy system" as you call it is how man can choose salvation or choose to reject it and yet God can already direct the outcome.
AoG - Assembly of God? My in-laws are AoG - conservative, homeschooling, working-class rural people. Very godly people. We get along well and I love them dearly though we don't agree on everything. AoG are pretty broad in their beliefs if I'm not mistaken.
As far as Camping castigating them, that may be a part of his appeal with them, oddly enough, as he clearly sees himself as a John the Baptist figurehead.
The point is that nobody will know when; the important thing is to be faithful at all times.
I'm a little bothered by these statements; the key is to be vigilant at all times. Of course it is their right to do so.
I think AoG—as I was reared . . .
are typically quite broadly generous, kind, inclusive of a wide diversity of people—come as you are . . . mostly at least the better ones . . . strongly supportive of the family, Biblical inerrancy, basic doctrines of the faith; Acts 2; I Cor 12-14 etc.
They can be fairly narrow and rigid on their view of their distinctives—speaking in tongues being—at least used to be—THE test of “being Spirit filled.” That’s the one main one I disagreed with.
Yet, they do suffer a fairly diverse range of teachings as long as their ministers support the basic doctrines of Christianity and are NOT cessationists . . . and PREACH SCRIPTURE STRAIGHTFORWARDLY.
They are not—or were not when I was in them—overly rigid about the Rapture. And a lot of other things they may believe but hold loosely and are not dogmatic about.
There is a lot of encouraging individuals to go to The Bible and study for themselves vs just taking what the preacher says.
I like that.
You made me curious, so I started looking into it. I guess some Christians believe that God knows everything, and some don’t. One of the arguments for those who don’t insist that God must know everything is a quote from Genesis where God claims to be sorry to have made man (Genesis 6:5-7). It’s a compelling argument. Anyway it is interesting to me, but I’m a conflicted soul :)
Mat 24:36 ¶ But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
2 Thessalonians 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that
man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God
sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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