To: Two Kids' Dad
So if God determined before the beginning of the world which individuals are to be saved, does that mean that a lot of people are doomed and whether theyre good people or evil bastards theyre still not gonna be raptured? Sounds like a pretty crappy system to me. The mystery can only be understood with the realization that God invented time and exists outside the boundaries of time. It is how free will and predestination can co-exist for if there is no free will, there could be no just punishment for unbelief. And if there was no predestination, no one could be considered God's chosen.
God knows the results before they happen because he exists beyond time.
That "crappy system" as you call it is how man can choose salvation or choose to reject it and yet God can already direct the outcome.
34 posted on
05/07/2011 10:23:07 PM PDT by
OrangeHoof
(Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
To: OrangeHoof; Two Kids' Dad
It is how free will and predestination can co-exist for if there is no free will, there could be no just punishment for unbelief. And if there was no predestination, no one could be considered God's chosen. Predestination is simply the 'path' that God puts us on during our material existence. I.E. he decides 'what' happens to us.
Free-will is how we 'react' to what happens.
48 posted on
05/07/2011 11:49:14 PM PDT by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: OrangeHoof
I assume that you have read Boethius.
57 posted on
05/08/2011 1:38:56 AM PDT by
Duck Fan
To: OrangeHoof
Your explanation in number 34 is as straight forward an explanation as I’ve seen yet but then again, I didn’t need convincing.
82 posted on
05/08/2011 6:02:45 AM PDT by
Graybeard58
(Trump - Romney, without the Mormon baggage.)
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