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To: Quix
I've met Mr. Camping on many occasions. A tall, gaunt, and austere gentleman, he. He comes across as a serious man but has a habit making such foolish predictions, as he did with his book, 1994?.

FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It's a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.

But the end-of-the-world stuff... it's undermining an otherwise doctrinally-solid effort to get the Gospel out.

Mr. Camping, in my humble opinion, is a living reason why ministers and other teachers should study in seminary and stand on knowledge. The Bible is not a book that, in it's entirety, any single human being can claim to comprehend - especially in the area of eschatology! Otherwise, you get this...

23 posted on 05/07/2011 10:08:04 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

I’ve met Mr. Camping on many occasions. A tall, gaunt, and austere gentleman, he. He comes across as a serious man but has a habit making such foolish predictions, as he did with his book, 1994?.

FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It’s a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.


I agree with you entirely. The network ministered to me a lot when I lived in San Diego.

I always thought it was quite cheeky of him to have AoG folks on his board and to get tons of money from them only to castigate them relentlessly for their theology being more or less from hell in his perspective.

I always thought


27 posted on 05/07/2011 10:11:35 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lexinom

I’ve met Mr. Camping on many occasions. A tall, gaunt, and austere gentleman, he. He comes across as a serious man but has a habit making such foolish predictions, as he did with his book, 1994?.

FWIW Family Stations does some quality broadcast work and has been my companion during some of the darkest and loneliest periods of my life. It’s a rare example of relative purity in a world filled with lasciviousness and scorn.


Except that I believe laymen can study with Holy Spirit’s aid and come up with insights and Biblical truths Semitary scholars and students miss.


28 posted on 05/07/2011 10:12:33 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lexinom
Mr. Camping, in my humble opinion, is a living reason why ministers and other teachers should study in seminary and stand on knowledge

Frankly, with the number of walking spiritual corpses I've met who came from "semetary" I'd say your plan's no sure formula for success, either. Knowledge and seminary training just ain't "all that"; "knowledge puffs up, love builds up," wrote the most highly theologically trained contributor to the New Testament. So, obviously, there's a good deal more that's necessary than just the knowledge and training.

One of Camping's core problems is that he is accountable to NOBODY, which should set off deafening alarm bells for every sane person.

I have sat under the preaching of some VERY well-known men of towering spiritual stature, and I know they had — to a man — made themselves accountable to others.

44 posted on 05/07/2011 11:37:05 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A free man unarmed is just a slave on borrowed time.)
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To: Lexinom

Eschatology is available those who remain steadfast in their study through faith in Christ, but Camping’s interpretation is very far off track.

2 points point immediately to error in his presentation.

1) Giving a date and time of the 2nd Coming/Rapture and
2) Alluding no salvation during or after the Tribulation within a pretrib premil framework.

1) The Rapture is imminent, not immediate, i.e. nothing is required prior to it occurring within Prophecy. Nobody knows the day or hour of the 2nd Coming, including the angels and even God the Son. Only God the Father has that knowledge.

2) The Church Age ceases with the Rapture. Nothing says salvation is still not possible after the Rapture, rather the body of Christ will have been completed and the first resurrection of the Church completed. Separate passages address a remnant, who are also believers. Other passages refer to those receiving salvation even in the Millennium.

Some interpretations attempt to combine different passages into conclusions beyond what is stated, but nowhere is it explicitly stated salvation no longer exists after the Rapture. During this Age, we have salvation through faith in Christ, as in any age. During this Age, believers remaining in fellowship will be Raptured and also saved from the Great Tribulation.


55 posted on 05/08/2011 12:43:47 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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