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Is there real Birth ertificate?
self | 4/28/2011 | self

Posted on 04/28/2011 7:00:57 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian

One big question in this whole BC affair:

Obama was supposed to produce HIS birth certificate, the one mama gave him. One that he is supposed to have in his possession since birth, like everyone else does. Original, authentic, used, wrinkled.

Instead the President of mighty USA has to send the clerk to Hawaii, to buy a copy, certification, (another forgery?), all of two copies for $10 and $4? Let us see one HIS mama gave him, not another photoshoped "certification"!

Media was fed necessary material: "He showed the BC, so controversy is over," - talking heads hammer it to the sheeple.

I think he is just sinking deeper and deeper, incompetence of hippie pack in WH is showing more and more and house of cards is falling apart.

Good patriots, please press on and let's Tea Party sweep in 2012 should cleanup the corrupted DC and bring power and freedom back into the people's hands!


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To: Leo Carpathian

According to the web site (below) the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So it is impossible that his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 could have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978!!http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

21 posted on 04/28/2011 8:07:26 AM PDT by antonia (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Why is the last digit in the birth certificate serial number pixelated?


22 posted on 04/28/2011 8:07:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

“Obama was supposed to produce HIS birth certificate, the one mama gave him.”

Maybe things have changed but now you get a computerized in the mail, a week or two after discharge. If you want a passport you send $10 or whatever and the state will mail you a notarized one.

And losing a BC from 50 years ago is hardly surprising, even if he had one. Do you guys have any better arguments? Like how the entire state of Hawaii (including the previous Republican Governor) is on the scam and forged his BC


23 posted on 04/28/2011 8:15:55 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (“An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.”)
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To: antonia

This isn’t BO’s birth certificate, and Hi. isn’t saying it is.

What the state of Hiwaii gave to BO is an abstract of the “Official” information it has on file from various sources WRT the birth of BO.

For example, if he were adopted, the original birth info would be redacted, his adopted parents’ info inserted, and only the time, date, and place of the birth would be consistent with the real birth certificate.

Taken to extreme, say, BO and family were all in the witness protection program. The COLB released would be an official state document, but would be all made up info.

I have no doubt what was released is an “official document” from the state of Hi., but it isn’t a copy of his original long form birth certificate (the one given to the parents when leaving hospital with a newborn, has length, weight, foot print, etc).

Look in your wallet, your driver’s license is an official state document, but odds are very little information on it is the same as what was on your original drivers license.

This is what we have on BO, information that is current today as far as Hi. is concerned, likely bears little resemblance to the original, genuine birth certificate (not COLB).


24 posted on 04/28/2011 8:22:13 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Leo Carpathian

25 posted on 04/28/2011 8:25:16 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Obama was supposed to produce HIS birth certificate, the one mama gave him.

What's this? Are birthers moving the goalposts once again?

26 posted on 04/28/2011 8:45:55 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Leo Carpathian
One that he is supposed to have in his possession since birth, like everyone else does. Original, authentic, used, wrinkled.

Everyone has an original birth certificate? I don't. I have a copy I requested when I was in my 30s....

27 posted on 04/28/2011 8:47:39 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: Mr. K

Had the same horrible circumstance of my “life” being lost in a move. Everything! It made getting my VA driver’s license a lot of fun, having to get not only my out-of- state BC, but also marriage license and another doc (I think SS card).

I would guess you had a certified copy of your original. Originals are kept at the office handling vital records in the relevant jurisdictions. It may be that your family was sent a copy once your birth cert was recorded. That courtesy probably varies from venue to venue.

The 40+ year old BC I’d had was that negative photo effect from microfiche, with the certification at the bottom as to its being a true copy of the original.

When I had to get the new copy in ‘10, it had less info, only what was critical, and it was printed on a newer paper, with a certification that it was an abstract of the original document.

My initial request for my kids’ BC’s, when I had to register them for Social Security in the late 80s, produced a card the size of a SS card, and with about as much info as is on the COLB put out by BHO in ‘08. We were able to use those to register the kids for school, scouts, college and even get passports, and one case, to join the U.S. Army. This year when my sons had to replace their BCs, they were given long forms without asking, and told that’s all that is issued now by DC. Of course, neither aspires to be POTUS.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 8:50:33 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: antonia

No, this has been put to bed over and over. For whatever reason the name his BC shows as the hospital is on other BCs from that era. Curious, to be sure, but the Nordyke BCs obtained in the mid-60s have the same name and there is no way they are forgeries.

And it’s not the layering, or the out-of-sequence number, or the race of “African” for his father, it is a computer generated document and not a scan or photocopy as it has been represented by the WH. The Denniger video clearly proves this in my mind, and I wanted all day yesterday for it to be legit to put all this behind us, but it is a fake.


29 posted on 04/28/2011 8:50:48 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: EDINVA

It was not that horrible at all, I am just relating it as to how I remember having one for years and years.

I got an identical copy from the Buffalo City Hall records department a year later.

I need my BC all the time for doing contract work where I am hired on W-2. I must have had to show it about 20 times in the last 20 years.

Speak of that... what did the president use to fill out his W-2 paperwork for his government job?


30 posted on 04/28/2011 9:00:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: wintertime; Darksheare

31 posted on 04/28/2011 9:18:04 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

In 1978 Obama was 18 years old...

Did Obama ever register with the Selected Service?......


32 posted on 04/28/2011 9:32:42 AM PDT by poinciana (961)
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33 posted on 04/28/2011 9:39:27 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: wrench

What you are saying is sorta true as I read it, but here is a link to the .pdf showing the letters between Obama, his lawyers, and the HDoH showing exactly what was requested and delivered.

Also adds more ammo for the Denniger video which clearly shows the document the WH released is purely a computer generated document, not a scan or photocopy of what HI sent over.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/Birth_Certificate_Request.PDF


34 posted on 04/28/2011 9:40:18 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: goldi

Apparently the seal is on the back.


35 posted on 04/28/2011 9:40:18 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Mr.Unique

Thank you.


36 posted on 04/28/2011 10:19:59 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: antonia
According to the web site (below) the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978.

The interesting thing, is that the birth certificate cited so often as being real from the Nordyke Twins shows the same hospital name as this.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347

So, somebody's wrong.

37 posted on 04/28/2011 11:26:08 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS

From their web site:

“The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children.”

Probably the ‘Maternity & Gynecological’ language preceded that.


38 posted on 04/28/2011 11:32:03 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: wrench
This isn’t BO’s birth certificate, and Hi. isn’t saying it is.

They are now. "On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

39 posted on 04/28/2011 11:55:49 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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To: IYAS9YAS
The interesting thing, is that the birth certificate cited so often as being real from the Nordyke Twins shows the same hospital name as this.

Obviously the Nordyke documents are forged! </birther>

40 posted on 04/28/2011 11:57:08 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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