Posted on 04/27/2011 11:23:48 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
I saw the Denninger video as well. However, I have no expertise to comment on the authenticity of this latest release. But the 'Donald's' presser today, reinforces for me that this is a feud the 'Donald' decided to take up is on behalf of the Clintons. He as much said so.
I believe something is being hidden, but I have NO clue what it is. I also believe that as far as liberals are concerned 'conservatives' are so little in numbers as far as literal votes they are not the least bit concerned about what we think or require or believe. Conservatives are always first in line to be necklaced with being kooks and extremists... and liberals know the behaviors of the majority of the Republican party so they treat them like hookers for hire.
But are their arguments strong enough to convince a significant number of thinking Americans? That, for me, is the question.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing this out. If Trump had any brains, he would have said this immediately. If any Republican had any testes, they'd have said this immediately after TOTUS's press conference calling it "silliness".
In my view, it is not "silliness" but what should have been a simple, run-of-the-mill, pro forma question answered 3 years ago.
But, If it's "silliness", then it's Obama's "silliness", and intentionally so.
Good Job! Thank you for compiling the relevant facts and kudos for a rational reasoned approach to the matter.
I did QC for a scanner manufactures and I stared at pixels every day for years. I’m 100% positive that that document was doctored. Why, I don’t know.
If I were Trump, I’d hire the best digital image analyst and blow this thing wide open. Something smells really bad. It’s now worse than simply stonewalling the release of his BC.
I wonder if the left/dem go into so much effort to debunk trig truthers and 9/11 truthers in their rank
Yes, that is an option. Actually that can be done to jpegs too with many applications. And often you will get partial conversions, some letters and not others. With this though the text layer is pretty much intact as a separate graphic. And BTW it would take seconds not "50 hours".
There are still many questions about Obama’s strange family history, travels, school history all the way through HLS I’d like to see examine. Sure Corsi’s book will be more expansive than just the BC.
Major stories though not getting coverage today or much attention.
Slick move of the day though was Trump jumping on a press conference prior to Obama and spinning it to taking credit for the release. Regardless of his questionable conservative credentials, Trump does an amazing job of controlling the discussion.
Wish the rest of the Republican field would be less sheepish. Trump gets it: They don’t like you. They’ll never like you. The best you can do is use the time, answer the questions as you want to answer them, get back in their faces, control the time, be aggressive, control the story, give them provocative things to report and they’ll quote you, etc. The guy is a media master.
Nice post. You have way too much time on your hands.
a little rebuttal to chew on
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/certificate-of-live-birth-reveals.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMxVbPCPBY&feature=player_embedded heres another guy debunking obama’s birth certificate
Personally, I wouldn't know if the thing were fake unless it were written in crayon and signed "Natasha Obama". However, there are people who make their livings doing document verification. In addition, there's a little thing called the Best Evidence Rule that requires originals rather than copies if the originals exist. That, of course, is in a court of law.
However, either a court of law, or the floor of the House of Representatives is where ALL major candidates for President should prove that they meet the requirements of the Office. The fact that this doesn't (hasn't) happen(ed) is merely a reflection of the fact that such things are usually easy to prove, and have always been freely provided by any candidate if simply asked.
Additionally, as far as I understand the eligibility issue, the Birth Certificate - even if genuine - does not prove eligibility as a "natural born citizen".
I've always considered Obama's eligibility to be a legitimate issue. By the same token, unless someone (many someones, actually) in some official position of authority within the Federal Government also agrees that it is legitimate -- then there is no recourse and the question is moot.
Good point. Obama could have done this 2 or 3 years ago. But the President, State of Hawaii, etc. etc. all part of a conspiracy? Unless someone comes up with a smoking gun (and odds of that are slim to none) continuing to pursue it marginalizes the party.
Gas is headed to $5-6 a gallon. Deficit is up 40%. Stimulus didn’t work. Etc. etc. The average swing voter who doesn’t vote party cares about the economy first. Republicans need to put forward a clear plan to cut the deficit, improve the economy, bring gas prices down. They don’t really care about anything else.
Apologies if I was less than clear!
The most truthful I have heard this cold hearted pharaoh to be was when he was talking plainly without teleprompters to Joe the Plumber... And when he told that gal that under his healthcare plan when asked about the 'spirit' will to live of a 105 year old grandmother, he could not speak to her 'spirit' will to live, but the 'panels' would have to decided if a 'pill instead of a procedure' would be prescribed.
So just because a claimed piece of paper containing the 'long-form bc' was released I have no confidence in its accuracy. Too much hanky-panky has been play and transparency is certainly not his strong suit. It will be interesting to see the Donald's next move... I am guessing it will depend on the polling data, and how the sheep and goats react to the untimely release.
I am highly suspect of any one saying this is now a closed issue. This closes nothing, because, there is a file folder full of historical, official documents that will have required his birth certificate attached. He is hiding something, what I do not know. But I suspect Hillary knows and she has a legacy to protect, and right now it is going to take some heavy duty fiction to make her legacy to live up to her expectations. It has got to be one big horse pill to swallow to know that she will never be president of the US.
Whatever his motives, Trump has said loud and clear what little people have been saying for years: the press nis mso protective of Obama. Criticize him for anything and they yell at you. They are as invested in this man as Goebbels was in Hitler. By which I mean a jealous adoration.
I’ve watched kdenninger’s video. I’m not entirely convinced there’s much new there, although they may be. I’m a bit too tired by this point.
He sounds like he knows what he’s talking about, or at least believes he does. My gut feeling is that he may have underestimated or not fully understood the process of the scanning/ separation software. But I’m not certain of that. Maybe he has a point. In any event, the video is worth watching, and it’s worth considering what he’s saying and also reading the comments, and trying to pull out whether or not he’s getting at something new.
Exactly. Obama was responding to the political heat. If 62% of Americans weren’t sure Obama was even born here, to me that shows his real approval rate is in the 30s now.
Obama is weak on this odd family history. Indonesia, different names, strange father and mother, where did he go, etc. That’s all ripe for a reason Americans can question and dislike Obama. But that’s only if the economy is tanking and people are paying $80 to fill their gas tanks. When things are going well, people look the other way. Clinton was ‘teflon’ to the extent the economy (thanks to the Republican Congress) was doing well.
And let’s see what Corsi’s book has that’s new information. May yield new information. The BC does at least show the people working for the POTUS are at least smarter than those working at CBS.
the media claim obama released it already and obama proved that they lied and not only that this version look forged
>> 19. I’m inoculating myself from any criticism for lack of credibility — therefore, you have no right to question my motives.
Got it, noob.
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