Weak Arguments That Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate Is Fake

Jeff Winston | 4/28/2011 | Jeff Winston

[Puckster]

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/obamas-document-has-been-digitally-altered/

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/whats-up-with-the-white-space-around-the-letters/

[Puckster]

You are truly being melodramatic.....get ahold of yourself and calm down.

Since when does digging for the facts constitute destruction....only to those that don't care.

[kingu]

You forgot #20 (or whatever we're up to at this point...) IF it is a forgery, it's going to come out. Someone will smell the money they can get from a tabloid or Trump, and they'll sell the information. Or someone’s a disgruntled Friend of Hillary who wants Obama out of the way and the field open for Hillary.

Obama can't claim ignorance either - he went on television and chided everyone for daring to demand he provide the document, because we interrupted his tee time. It wasn't buried this time, and Obama blinked. Now we need his father's immigration records, his school transcripts and everything else that would normally be part of the document dump demanded of any prospective White House candidate.

It's not about the birth certificate, it's getting Obama to react, and today was a great victory for Trump. Keep it up Trump!

[BuckeyeTexan]

Doubl check your numbers with Tesibria's speadsheet. Obama was a defendant in way more than three lawsuits. His personal attorneys defended him in three lawsuits. The Department of Justice defended him in nine lawsuits. Of the remaining lawsuits, the rest were either dismissed sua sponte or did not directly include Obama as a defendant.

[Berlin_Freeper]

1. "None of what you say matters. I'm still going to declare his birth certificate a fake."

How childish can you get?

After reading that I decided to save my time and skip down to your last point:

19. You're a "newbie" (having registered just over a year ago), or you're a "DU troll."

And then I was like: Oh I see - that childish!

LoL!

[SpaceBar]

The thing that gets me is that in any non-trivial disclosure of personal documentation for a job, a security clearance, a membership, credit line, insurance, etc... if there is any question about the provenance or authenticity regarding such requested documents, they go straight into the trash can and may put you in hot water legally. The White House ministry of propaganda “puts out” an electronic facsimile of a supposed real document and purports it is an original. It's laughable. The DMV wouldn't accept that piece of garbage.

[Jeff Winston]

Okay, ALMOST out of here.

Let me be the first to report a possible problem with point #11.

A little while ago, Jerome Corsi made the following post:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292457

Corsi contends:

The date the birth document was accepted by the registrar general was the date the birth certificate number was stamped on the birth record.

The birth certificate number was stamped on the form by a rubber stamp that automatically increased by one each time a birth certificate was stamped.

The question, therefore, is how was it possible that the Nordyke twins had their birth certificates accepted by the registrar general in Hawaii three days later than the registrar general accepted Obama's birth certificate, when the twins' numbers are lower than Obama's number?

This seems to me an unusual way to do things. Why not just have a pre-stamped pad? Why stamp on the spot?

It's obvious the certificate number got there by an individual stamping process. Interesting, and possibly relevant, is that between the twins' sequentially-numbered birth certificates, there is a visible change in alignment on the certificate numbers.

In order to provide different document numbers, there would have to be a machine that individually stamped certificates. The question is whether it was done in advance, or (as Corsi claims) on the spot at the moment a certificate was issued, and that on the date accepted.

If he can convincingly demonstrate the latter, he would have a very interesting point indeed.

Okay, now I'm REALLY out of here! Good night!

[BuckeyeTexan]

Whatever.

Apparently you haven’t been paying much attention for the past three years. Birthers want some of the freepers who disagree with them to be banned. They want a purge. You’ve certainly been here long enough to go through one. When I say “tear apart,” that’s what I mean. We’ll lose some very good, very conservative patriots if we have a purge over this issue - no matter which side gets the boot. Write it off as melodrama if you like. That doesn’t change the dynamics between two groups of freepers.

Until now, JR’s rule has been that anything goes on birther threads. So much so that vulgar personal attacks are disregarded. He expects freepers to work it out. I agree. If the two groups can’t agree to disagree and move forward in peace, there will be a purge.

[woofie]

Good job

[TigersEye]

By releasing this so-called LFBC 0bama has admitted that the COLB was no good. It is also an admission that Robert Gibbs and 0bama lied when they said they had already released a BC.

[exnavy]

The birth cert. is as fake as the man.

[TigersEye]

Basically your argument is “0bama says this is real so don’t investigate it.”

[Vendome]

MuBarak is an idiot to have released this “Copy of Date Points” on a Wednesday!

What moron doesn’t know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?

Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.

But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?

This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mother’s belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.

Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!

You have no honor.

[Puckster]

“Whatever.”???????????????????

“Birthers want some of the freepers who disagree with them to be banned.”

Well, please don't lump me in with them.....I'm uninterested in the hyperbole on either side of this issue.

[rawcatslyentist]

He hasn't been gaming. He's hoping no one calls him on his being born a DUAL CITZEN.

This is the first legal doc PROVING this FACT.

He needs to be removed ASAP!

[BuckeyeTexan]

I didn’t and wouldn’t. You sound very reasonable so far.

[TigersEye]

Isn’t the timing of the State of Hawaii’s shutting down access to all BC’s several days ago very highly coincidental, as well as the Gov. announcing that Buckwheat’s BC couldn’t be found, although he remembered seeing it?

Also strange is that Special Report reported that 0bama decided two weeks ago to have his LFBC released and asked for a "special dispensation" to get it. Yet the HDOH had not changed its policy two weeks ago so no "special dispensation" would have been necessary.

[Puckster]

“I didn’t and wouldn’t. You sound very reasonable so far.”

I've provided a 2 links, the first being the obvious pixelation and aliasing of the numbers. The second is why does the paper fade at the applied information.

This is the first forensic digging I've found, and it doesn't look very good for authenticity.

EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE FRACKEN PERSONAL ATTACKS.

I understand the “Birthers” have been rather vitriolic and the “Non-Birthers” have been equally dismissive.

This doesn't help anyone nor the truth.

[Varsity Flight]

” ++++ What moron doesn’t know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday? “ ++++

Was thinking over exactly that tonight!

.....And the extreme arrogance and haughtiness speak of the D.C. bureau groups, over this electronically released exposition.

[Puckster]

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html

Here’s some more forensic analysis on the COLB.

If this is forged, what confidence does anyone have in the BC?