Posted on 03/04/2011 3:39:10 PM PST by Windflier
As I was reading the thread titles on the main page, just now, my blood began to boil. It's clear to me that the leftist ruling class is making an all-out push to beat the American people to the finish line, and to topple this country before we can implement the reforms required to salvage our beloved republic, our economy, our sovereignty, and our traditional way of life.
Claire Wolfe once famously said, "America is at that awkward stage....it's too late to work within the system, and it's too early to start shooting the bastards."
I just want to know one thing. Am I the only one who feels like we're finally nearing the end of the "awkward stage"?
I didn't misunderstand your post. Yes, you pointed out the situation (as you see it), but you didn't give an opinion as to how it should be dealt with.
I read what you implied, which is all you wrote.
Whatever, infer all you want.
Patriots...this is a call to you. Please share your thoughts with us on this thread if you are so inclined or share this thread with others. Thanks!! :)
You didn’t “go on” so much at all; by the time you were done I was hoping you’d keep talking. Very well-stated, and so true. I think what you’ve said, and what others have said on this thread, really are what a LOT of America lovers are feeling. And that’s a beautiful thing, the love of America and her people. That’s the one good thing about all this mess - it has forced the America lovers to show their true colors, and a beautiful, powerful sight that is.
I was thinking some more about the birth analogy. My labor was induced every time, because we lost our first child for unknown reasons. By the last child I knew how much pain it takes to finish the job, and the longer the piddly contractions went on, the more impatient I got because I knew that by the time I got to the really productive stuff it was going to be wee hours of the morning when I would be exhausted. And that’s exactly what happened.
It takes a certain amount of pain to accomplish freedom. The contractions are coming on fast and heavy now. Each time the left pushes the envelope they are preparing the quiet-minded, tolerant, salt-of-the-earth Americans to the point where they can and will push for the final birth.
The more these union thugs reveal their face the more America steels itself to put an end to this crap.
The more lawlessness we see from the bureaucrats, the more the DOJ refuses to enforce the law, the more the regime ignores court orders, etc.... the more people see what needs to be done. When all the might of America realizes where we’re at, we will be at 10 cm and there is no way the left will withstand the pushing that the good, salt-of-the-earth Americans will do for the birth.
They think they are pushing us to the point that we will break, but they are really just opening the way so that when the time is right the urge to push and the open canal will all be ready at the same time. We will not break. We will give birth to freedom.
Sorry for the gross imagery, especially for people who aren’t used to thinking about this, but I really did learn through long waiting for effective contractions that pain can be our friend. We can welcome it, knowing that the only way forward is to get past the pain that has to come.
I think leaders like Scott Walker and Chris Christie recognize that the cuts and turmoil we’re going through are absolutely necessary. The more our leaders are able to see that they just need to suck it up and do what has to be done, the better the chance that we make it through this birth the best way possible. We need to let them know that we understand we’re in the transition period, that it’s going to be intense, and we are right there with them to be a source of strength when it gets really tough.
My observation is that most true Americans still desire to continue working within the system of our established civil mechanisms, to address and solve our country's myriad problems.
That's fine, and I count myself as one of those. As long as we're gaining ground against the horde by using those established civil mechanisms, then we can all take comfort in the fact that we are making a difference, and that the current battle tactics are winning.
The problem that I see, is that we're in something of a race with those who wish to fully undo the foundations of our constitutional republic.
Will we, the good people of this country, head off the inevitable final destruction of America before it totally collapses by going this route, or is it too little, too late?
Have we misjudged how much force and intelligence is required to correct our course in time to save the country? Should we be 'stepping it up a couple notches', to speed up, and catch her before she falls?
Watching the headlines, it appears to me that our despicable opposition has done precisely that. They've 'bumped it up a few notches', while our attention seems to have been diverted to the upcoming 2012 elections.
I feel a lull in the 'campaign', which is the exact opposite of what should be occurring at this time.
I wasn't the one 'inferring' anything - you were. That was the entire point of my initial reply to you.
I facebooked this thread.
Butterdezillion, your analogy is so beautiful. I think that is why so many women were quick initially to get moving on the counter action. We recognize when the time has come to marshal our force to get the job done!
Birth is also a Creator gifted process. It would not happen if He did not make it so.
But I hear, too, the concern Windflier is voicing. Have we waited too late to begin the “push”?
This is my vantage point:
In the Declaration of Independence, we entered into a covenant with the Creator. He is faithful and just. He will honor the covenant until the end of time. But the “just” part comes in when one party, we the people, breaks the covenant. When we do not look to Him as Creator we have broken the covenant. Our nation as a whole is not honoring God. No one can deny that. It is not “just” for God to continue to honor a covenant that is not being honored by the other party.
You know that old saying, if you feel God has left your life, who moved?
Our Creator is the same one who set the watered down altar on fire in front of the idol worshiping priests. The founders may or may not have realized the import of their words in the Declaration but the Creator was called on, and He answered.
Will we, now that we are being called on, answer back?
It is now, and will continue to be about those words in the Declaration. Our nation will stand or fall on them.
Thank you!!!!! :)
I’m going to be away from my computer for a while, in case anyone posts to me. I don’t want anyone to think I am ignoring them!!
Wow. Again, well-stated and so true.
The Lord would definitely be justified if He gave up on us. “The fool returning to his vomit” thing, and all. I’ve always thought that it is not the politicians who stand trial in an election, but the voters. They deserve what they vote for.
I do think that a lot of people were ignorant of what they were voting for. I think they thought that the media was honest rather than an enemy of what America has always been. Those people are waking up, and I don’t think it’s an accident that so many people are also realizing what abortion is - an assault on the Creator’s gift of life.
So I think parts of the nation are waking up - both politically and spiritually.
I think we’ve got one heckuva spoiled generation that has been nothing but a bunch of self-interested, mindless, drug-addled moochers, and that generation happens to be at the political influence/power stage of their lives so the rest of the country is reeling from their assault on everything that has worked in this country.
In the end, we really need the Lord to deliver us from our sin. “...if my people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” (2 Chron 7:14)
When I pray with my daughter at night, I very often tell God that He would be totally justified to let us stew in our own juice, but that His ultimate desire is for mercy - so please humble us to know how desperately we need Him and His ways, so that our land can be healed.
I neither implied nor inferred. I stated a fact. A fact that you did not contest, and which I infer you agreed with. Then you went on to infer from the lack of amplification on my part, that I was implying that people should run and hide, vice voice their concerns.
To the latter I stated that you were incorrect in your inference, but you decided that my inability to make it clear enough for you to understand was in itself a conscious effort on my part to call for mass surrender.
As you have based your posts on inference, and have insisted that my clarification for you was insincere, there is appears to be that you will accept at face value.
Good day.
Well, that was a mouthful. You could have just said, “neener-neener-neener...”
Thanks for the “clarification”.
If you think that’s bad read this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2681565/posts
You might like it.
At your link...
Spirited debate on 2nd Amendment rights in the workplace.
I have nothing to add to that thread, but I do fall on the side that private property rights trump anyone’s right to carry on said property.
Personally, though, I wouldn’t work in a place that demanded that I disarm myself while on their premises.
Such a demand by the property owner simply does the same thing as draconian gun restrictions that disarm citizens in their own homes, or in public places. That does nothing to stop the lone nutjob who enters that property to shoot up the place, but keeps everyone there from having the means to defend themselves.
As long as I have a choice, I won’t subject myself to that situation.
Thanks daisy mae for the usa.
>I have nothing to add to that thread, but I do fall on the side that private property rights trump anyone’s right to carry on said property.
My problem with someone demanding you disarm yourself before entry can be summed up as so:
Does that person legally assume responsibility {by contract, if needs be} for my safety/well-being after requiring I divest myself of arms?
{Anyone who would even be hesitant to agree is someone to be suspicious of, IMO.}
Does that person legally assume responsibility {by contract, if needs be} for my safety/well-being after requiring I divest myself of arms?
A property owner's legal assumption of responsibility won't do you much good, if you're shot dead by a nutcase on the premises.
I'd rather just take a pass on stepping foot on that owner's property.
Public property is another story, and a bit stickier.
>Public property is another story, and a bit stickier.
No kidding; especially public *government* property.
One interesting thing I found (after asking “what authority/authorization does the [State’s District] Court have to say ‘No Unauthorized Weapons, violators will be prosecuted’” after seeing that posted on the courthouse when I reported for Jury Duty) is that there exists no actual law barring weapons from the courthouse. {What they do have is a “court rules” document which specifies it; however, the State Constitution says “No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense [...]” so any prosecution thereof would be just such an abridging law.}
Well, I did say that bearing arms on public property is "sticky".
As your example above shows, a citizen would be well within their constitutional rights to go armed inside the courthouse --- but, you'd better be prepared to go through all sorts of hell to defend that right, should you do so.
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