Posted on 02/19/2011 1:59:12 AM PST by LibWhacker
Modern cosmology theory holds that our universe may be just one in a vast collection of universes known as the multiverse. MIT physicist Alan Guth has suggested that new universes (known as pocket universes) are constantly being created, but they cannot be seen from our universe.
In this view, nature gets a lot of tries the universe is an experiment thats repeated over and over again, each time with slightly different physical laws, or even vastly different physical laws, says Jaffe.
Some of these universes would collapse instants after forming; in others, the forces between particles would be so weak they could not give rise to atoms or molecules. However, if conditions were suitable, matter would coalesce into galaxies and planets, and if the right elements were present in those worlds, intelligent life could evolve. Some physicists have theorized that only universes in which the laws of physics are just so could support life, and that if things were even a little bit different from our world, intelligent life would be impossible. In that case, our physical laws might be explained anthropically, meaning that they are as they are because if they were otherwise, no one would be around to notice them.
MIT physics professor Robert Jaffe and his collaborators felt that this proposed anthropic explanation should be subjected to more careful scrutiny, and decided to explore whether universes with different physical laws could support life.
The MIT physicists have showed that universes quite different from ours still have elements similar to carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and could therefore evolve life forms quite similar to us, even when the masses of elementary particles called quarks are dramatically altered.
Jaffe and his collaborators felt that this proposed anthropic explanation should be subjected to more careful scrutiny, so they decided to explore whether universes with different physical laws could support life. Unlike most other studies, in which varying only one constant usually produces an inhospitable universe, they examined more than one constant.
Whether life exists elsewhere in our universe is a longstanding mystery. But for some scientists, theres another interesting question: could there be life in a universe significantly different from our own?
In work recently featured in a cover story in Scientific American, Jaffe, former MIT postdoc, Alejandro Jenkins, and recent MIT graduate Itamar Kimchi showed that universes quite different from ours still have elements similar to carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and could therefore evolve life forms quite similar to us. Even when the masses of the elementary particles are dramatically altered, life may find a way.
You could change them by significant amounts without eliminating the possibility of organic chemistry in the universe, says Jenkins.
Although bizarre life forms might exist in universes different from ours, Jaffe and his collaborators decided to focus on life based on carbon chemistry. They defined as congenial to life those universes in which stable forms of hydrogen, carbon and oxygen would exist.
If you dont have a stable entity with the chemistry of hydrogen, youre not going to have hydrocarbons, or complex carbohydrates, and youre not going to have life, says Jaffe. The same goes for carbon and oxygen. Beyond those three we felt the rest is detail."
They set out to see what might happen to those elements if they altered the masses of elementary particles called quarks. There are six types of quarks, which are the building blocks of protons, neutrons and electrons. The MIT team focused on up, down and strange quarks, the most common and lightest quarks, which join together to form protons and neutrons and closely related particles called hyperons.
In our universe, the down quark is about twice as heavy as the up quark, resulting in neutrons that are 0.1 percent heavier than protons. Jaffe and his colleagues modeled one family of universes in which the down quark was lighter than the up quark, and protons were up to a percent heavier than neutrons. In this scenario, hydrogen would no longer be stable, but its slightly heavier isotopes deuterium or tritium could be. An isotope of carbon known as carbon-14 would also be stable, as would a form of oxygen, so the organic reactions necessary for life would be possible.
The team found a few other congenial universes, including a family where the up and strange quarks have roughly the same mass (in our universe, strange quarks are much heavier and can only be produced in high-energy collisions), while the down quark would be much lighter. In such a universe, atomic nuclei would be made of neutrons and a hyperon called the sigma minus, which would replace protons. They published their findings in the journal Physical Review D last year.
Jaffe and his collaborators focused on quarks because they know enough about quark interactions to predict what will happen when their masses change. However, any attempt to address the problem in a broader context is going to be very difficult, says Jaffe, because physicists are limited in their ability to predict the consequences of changing most other physical laws and constants.
A group of researchers at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory has done related studies examining whether congenial universes could arise even while lacking one of the four fundamental forces of our universe the weak nuclear force, which enables the reactions that turn neutrons into protons, and vice versa. The researchers showed that tweaking the other three fundamental forces could compensate for the missing weak nuclear force and still allow stable elements to be formed.
That study and the MIT work are different from most other studies in this area in that they examined more than one constant. Usually people vary one constant and look at the results, which is different than if you vary multiple constants, says Mark Wise, professor of physics at Caltech, who was not involved in the research. Varying only one constant usually produces an inhospitable universe, which can lead to the erroneous conclusion that any other congenial universes are impossible.
One physical parameter that does appear to be extremely finely tuned is the cosmological constant a measure of the pressure exerted by empty space, which causes the universe to expand or contract. When the constant is positive, space expands, when negative, the universe collapses on itself. In our universe, the cosmological constant is positive but very small any larger value would cause the universe to expand too rapidly for galaxies to form. However, Wise and his colleagues have shown that it is theoretically possible that changes in primordial cosmological density perturbations could compensate at least for small changes to the value of the cosmological constant.
In the end, there is no way to know for sure what other universes are out there, or what life they may hold. But that will likely not stop physicists from exploring the possibilities, and in the process learning more about our own universe.
Well we can go if you like, but we’ll have to go quickly.
Well, in review: you said it would be nice to see the present at these locations. You WILL see the present at these locations. You will for instance see the PRESENT at a body six trillion miles or so away from you, (one light year) in approximately one year. It is indeed possible to see the present here FROM these locations; we simply need to get there quickly, i.e. faster than the speed of light. That was my attempt at a joke.
Well I am no expert on these matters but as far as going to the future is concerned, I don’t want to see the many things that will break my heart and possibly my will to live.
Somebody’s been taking too much LSD.
Some of my fondest memories are of family outings to globular cluster 576T.
“It is meaningless fantasy, a total waste of time.”
And it’s a total waste of taxpayer money in a time when we are worse than broke. The government outlaws the use of tax money to support Christian religion in any way, but cheerfully supports billions of dollars of spending on the humanist delusions of scientists.
But as Mr. Llewellyn noted in the New York Review of Books all those years ago, they "cannot allow a Divine foot in the door." Therefore, these 'scientists' are compelled by their own denial of God to make up stories about how the Universe can exist without Him. Futile, and sad.
Modern cosmology has become a religion. It requires belief in things that are not verifiable. Deviance from the official dogmas means expulsion. Adherents continue to believe in spite of valid rational proofs that they are wrong.
In fact, when we use powerful telescopes we see gazillions of galaxies and other features ALL OVER THE PLACE ~ and there's absolutely no way that we can prove or disprove that any of them are not also their own complete galaxy with subtly different physical laws.
It might well be useful to determine which ones are "different" and which ones aren't ~ particularly if we wee to find ourselves drifting close to one. There's a ginormous blackhole only 51 lightyears away ~ I'd really like to know if that's one of ours or someone else's ~ and pretty soon too!
Is there any observational evidence???? I thought the Scientific Method started with
1. Unexplained fact or phenomenon.
2. Fact gathering ........
Don’t fall into the trap of intellectual masturbation.
Is there any observational evidence???? I thought the Scientific Method started with
1. Unexplained fact or phenomenon.
2. Fact gathering ........
Don’t fall into the trap of intellectual masturbation.
There are mysteries beyond mysteries.
For Christians, I don’t believe that it’s possible to read the Bible and come to a conclusion that God could have created more than one....
I would like to add that if there is any doubt, just listen to some of Beethoven's best works by a great symphony. Pure randomness could not have been into play.
Here’s my theory:
Our universe was supposedly started by a big bang.
There are potentially unlimited other universes out there...they may have started up with their own bang.
More than one bang = gang bang.
You heard it here first.
Man do I ever agree. The Hubble may be the one best scientific investment in history.
That settles it.
I have now completely abandoned my search for a missing skate key that I lost in 1959.
yes, it is always fun to wonder. to set the record straight ... I neither am an expert. Thank You, for the conversation.
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