Video of Home Schooled Wrestler Forfeiting Match Against a Girl, In Iowa State Tournament

ChicoER Gate ^ | 2/17/11 | Chuck Wolk

[Amos McCoy]

When it became apparent that his opponent in the state tournament wrestling match would be a girl., e would be facing off against a girl, Joel Northrup, forfeited his match to her.  As a home-schooled sophomore with a 35-4 record, Joel is also a Christian who takes his faith seriously. So he could not in good conscience wrestle with a  girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent. If only we had more boys raised to respect the fairer sex as much as Joel has been.   His parents are homeschooling him. but he has been allowed to wrestle with the Lin-Mar of Marion Iowa.  So Cassy Herkelman of Cedar Falls was able to win her first match at the Iowa State High School Athletic Association State Wrestling Tournament at Wells Fargo Arena on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2011. 

Her opponent, Joel Northrup of Linn-Mar of Marion, declined to wrestle her.

"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, the tournament's other female entrant) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most of the high school sports in Iowa."

His coach Doug Streicher did not speak with the media after the match. The other girl, Megan, lost her match in 52 seconds to the boy she wrestled.

Video of wrestler forfeiting match against a girl.

[Mr. Silverback]

It involves groping. Look, we can call those holds what we want, but you have to grab and manipulate the opponent’s body, and if you’re a heterosexual male, grabbing and manipulating a man’s body and a woman’s body are different things even in the same context.

[Mr. Silverback]

But in a sport where there's limited slots, such as wrestling weight classes, I think that's a problem. If he won a wrestle off at 112 lbs. and knocked another kid out of wrestling in a match or the state tournament, then its unfair to the kid who actually goes to the school.

Using that logic, they should award wrestling slots to the kids who have the best attendance record. After all, they actually attend the school more than a kid who has a lesser attendance record. Who cares which kid is the better wrestler?

[Mr. Silverback]

Nicely put.

[Secret Agent Man]

Thanks, proof another person didn’t get my point. Read my follow up to this.

[Mr. Silverback]

as a former homeschooling parent, all I heard was our kids weren't playing sports or they weren't socialized, then when an opportunity comes along for us to drag them out of their completely indoctrinated dungeon like existence to mingle with "real" kids, we get "why is a homeschooler getting to play" crap.

Bears repeating!

[Chickensoup]

Lastly, if the kid is home schooled, then why is he wrestling on a high school team?

In many states homeschooled kids can take high school classes and do sports in their district

[BigCinBigD]

Yes it was. If he had beaten her to a pulp. Maybe she and her idiot parents would learn.

[OneVike]

You must think cheerleading is disrespectful to women too.

This is the most simple and common co-ed move called a 'chair'. Guess where the guy's hand is?

The way cheerleading is done today it is. Trust me, if my children were young and still in school today, neither my daughters nor my son would ever be allowed to participate in cheerleading. Especially if maneuvers like that were used.

Are you telling me that having a boy hold your daughter by her crotch in the air, as in that photo is OK with you? If so, you are one sick puppy, and I pray for your daughter if you have one.

I may live in the world where that goes on, but it does not make it right. When did conservatives, and I say that because this is a conservative forum, but when did conservatives become OK with teenage boys grabbing their daughters by the crotch in front of the whole school during a basketball or football game?

Call be a prude, but that sir is repugnant to me, and if a female teacher told my daughter to allow a boy to hold her in the air that way my wife would be sitting in the county jail for a long time. If the teacher were a man, the I would be sitting in county, while the perverted teacher was healing fro her wounds in the IC ward.

Could someone please answer me a question? When did parents become OK with boys grabbing their daughters in disrespectful ways as they do in public today? Is it any wonder we now have girls bragging about the boys they have had sex with before they even graduate from junior high school? Well, they wanted to be equal, and now the feminist movement has made the girls even more rude and crude then the boys were.

[stuartcr]

??? We’re still talking about kids wrestling, aren’t we?

[GunRunner]

Are you telling me that having a boy hold your daughter by her crotch in the air, as in that photo is OK with you?

It's not her crotch, but nice try. Maybe move on to boy girl dancing for your next crusade.

[Mr. Silverback]

Krb asked if the kid thought he couldn’t control himself. I pointed out that a number of situations are inappropriate whether the person in them is exercising self-control or not.

So yeah, we’re still talking about a high school boy in a situation with a high school girl that is inappropriate, and how it is inappropriate no matter what his level of self-control is.

Simple enough?

One thing I find interesting is that this kid is living out the values his family taught him and is willing to pay a personal price to do so, but some freepers are treating him like an idiot because they think this is an appropriate situation. They would never do that with, say, a Jewish kid who stayed off the wrestling team if the coach prescribed a diet with two servings of bacon a day in it.

[OneVike]

Yes stuartcr we are, but GunRunner brought up the question of what I thought about a move in cheer leading, since I disapprove of teen boys wrestling teen girls.

No GunRunner, I see no problem with most dances, some do go way beyond the line of decency. As for the move you pointed out in the photo, yes they do get their hands up and all around the girls crotch. How do you think they learn, by failing to do it correctly. Or do you think every boy and girl does that move perfect the first few times they try. Or for that matter, do you think once they learn it they never make a mistake?

I had a young man work for me when I managed a restaurant that was a cheerleader for the local college. When I asked him why he wanted to be a male cheer leader, he was honest and told me that he liked being in front of crowds, and then he added, that all his buddies were jealous because he could grab a girl all the boys are hot over in places that could get them arrested if they tried. He also told me that his hand is always slipping on the girls legs because of the way some girls sweat while working out.

Like I said, call me a prude all you want, but it is the way I see it, and I am no less honest about my point of view I preach a sermon.

[Jan_Sobieski]

My son was the one that forfeited against the girl. Not sure of your wrestling history, but it certainly is a combat/contact sport. I wrestled like you. My son has been encouraged (in private) by the top collegiate coaches of top ranked teams outside of Iowa.

Because you are young, I believe that your public school education has feminized you into believing that there is no difference between a girl and boy. No matter what Physiological, Emotional, Psychological differences there are. You have been taught to ignore this.

[TheBattman]

When the competition plus living vicariously became more important than morality and common sense, we get what you are describing (I call it idolatry and the epitome of selfishness).

I knew a couple of the guys on the cheerleading squad when I was in college - they REALLY liked their “position” on the squad...

[Jan_Sobieski]

Unfortunately Home School families have to pay taxes for the public school district they are in. So in effect, they are paying double(x2) for school. I wish we had the voucher system. Not to mention the mom having to stay home and not work because of her desire to raise a child with a "High Quality" education.

Question: Do you agree with the union protests in Wisconsin? This is the state the has textbooks praising Islam and Obama while marginalizing George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and most of our founding forefathers. What are they protesting for? Their $100,000 salaries to teach cultural marxism to our young people.

[TheBattman]

1 Thessalonians 5:2 - Abstain from the APPEARANCE of all evil. Remember, it isn’t just about what is going on in our mind and heart - but what impression we leave on people.

If that male cheerleader has a “pure heart” and doesn’t even think about where his hand is/is near - that is great. But what about all the other young men who drool fantasizing about what that male cheerleader is doing - and what they ASSUME he is doing with that hand. That is the APPEARANCE of evil.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

I looked at Cassie's background and found she wrestled against girls until this year, so there are female wrestling opportunities. My question is this: Does the decision by whichever powers that be to allow her to cross over into the male wrestling group open the door to allow a male to wrestle on the female teams?

Also, gunrunner - do you feel females should be allowed into front line combat situations?

[WorldviewDad]

Well stated.

[stuartcr]

Is that really the same?

[WorldviewDad]

“When did conservatives, and I say that because this is a conservative forum, but when did conservatives become OK with teenage boys grabbing their daughters by the crotch in front of the whole school during a basketball or football game?”

I believe that it became OK shortly after conservatives and Christians decided that it was OK to send their children to public schools to be “educated”. Public schools are not about education but about changing the culture from a God focused culture to a man centered culture.

“Education is thus a most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American public school is a school of Humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, and teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?” “Humanism A New Religion” by Charles Francis Potter published in 1930.

“Two ideas are here in conflict-on the one hand, man organizing and directing his own life, on the other, professing to believe that a deity orders it for him. Between the two there can be no reconciliation, and religion will eventually have to give way to the facts. Which means that religion, if it would be a vital factor in human life, must also become naturalistic and humanistic.” “Humanism” by John H. Dietrich, D.D. published in 1933.

“The conditions of work, EDUCATION, devotion, and play should be humanized. Alienating forces should be modified or ERADICATED” “Humanist Manifesto 2” signed and published in 1973.

“Tenth: It follows that there will be no uniquely religious emotions and attitudes of the kind hitherto associated with belief in the supernatural.” “Humanist Manifesto” signed and published in 1933 (John Dewey signed)

“it is the business of every one interested in education to insist upon the school as the primary and most effective instrument of social progress and reform in order that society may be awakened to realize what the school stands for...” “Education Today” by John Dewey published in 1940 (reprinted from his “Pedagogic Creed” from 1897)

We do need to see what the schools stand for...they stand for the removal of God from the public (no school prayer) square as well as the break up of the family.
With what is happening in my state of Wisconsin right now, I hope that more parents will see what is happening and realize that it is not in their or their children's best interest to continue being educated by the public schools.

We must remember that ideas lead to actions and that actions lead to consequences. We are now seeing the consequences of turning over our children (around 90% of Christian kids are sent to public school) to those that would teach them the ideas of self instead of God. After two to three generations of this we end up with a culture like we have today...were parents don't react when their daughter has a boys hand on her privates because it is “justified” to show “school spirit”.

For further understanding I would suggest the following resources:

“Clergy in the Classroom” by David A. Noebel

“Aim For The Children” by Daniel E. Johnson

“The Battle For Truth” by David A. Noebel

“Agenda” DVD documentary

“Demographic Winter” DVD documentary

“Raising Godly Children in an Ungodly World” DVD by Ken Ham