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150 Years ago today - Jefferson Davis was elected President of the Confederate States of America.
on this day ^ | Feb 9th, 2011 | on-this-day

Posted on 02/09/2011 3:42:15 PM PST by central_va

Davis was informed the next day.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: burningcrosses; civilwar; crossdressing; kkk; partyoftheklan; secession; selfgovernment; statesrights; yankeekeywordspam; yankeerevisionism
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To: rockrr
And states cannot secede unilaterally.

Not under the US Constitution.

141 posted on 02/10/2011 2:14:27 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Hope you all have fun! :-)


142 posted on 02/10/2011 2:19:40 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: Huck
Not under the US Constitution.

And which article of the USC is this covered?

143 posted on 02/10/2011 2:25:19 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The Supremacy Clause.


144 posted on 02/10/2011 2:27:06 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: rockrr
There is nothing conservative in perpetuating regional bigotry

Oh no, not local loyalty. Anything but that.

145 posted on 02/10/2011 2:31:54 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: central_va; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Here's what I don't get about folks like you. Why is it so important to get out from under the Constitution, AND maintain that the Constitution is on your side? I don't get this bizarre compulsion.

For me, it's so much easier simply to accept that the Constitution created a national government that is too powerful, that neutered the states and turned them into administrative districts, that create powers vague and dangerous, and that has a general tendency to expand in scope and expense.

My explanation is supported by the facts. It was predicted when the Constitution was still up for debate. The scientific method of hypothesis-experiment-results has affirmed the anti-federalist argument. Why hold onto the false arguments of Calhoun?

I can maybe understand them trying those arguments back then, the same way Jefferson tried to create new doctrines and somehow improve politically what was fundamentally a bad situation.

That's what makes the CSA so idiotic. To lead their people into violent rebellion, only to set up the SAME system with all the same faults. It's absurd. The Confederacy was NOT a confederacy. There's nothing more absurd than that FACT. It was a republic. Ridiculous. So much blood...for NOTHING.

I don't get it. Why try to get out from the Constitution and defend it at the same time? Why not just claim your right to revolution, and create something better?

146 posted on 02/10/2011 2:34:18 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: servantboy777

You lost and you’re still losing. Corruption in Washington is nothing new, it can and will be voted out of office. What irony that you think men virtuous who held to the belief that one man could own another. If the CSA had won would there still be slavery today? What would have become of that ‘’peculiar institution’’? All your life you’ve lived under The Stars and Stripes and the freedom it has given you, paid in blood by men and women far better than the both of us and yet you romance a time you know nothing about, you think you do but you don’t. If this country isn’t good enough for you THEN GET OUT! Your ‘’southern heritage’’, I damn it to Hell for the slave owning treason that it was! I’m not a ‘’Yankee’’ or a ‘’northerner’’, I’m an AMERICAN! What are you? Honest to Good God you knuckle-dragging JohnnyReb wannabes make me sick.


147 posted on 02/10/2011 3:05:13 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I’m sure we will. I’ll make sure that I post some pics. We went to Shiloh a few weeks ago, and I posted some pics here from the battlefield.


148 posted on 02/10/2011 3:11:30 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson
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To: jmacusa; servantboy777

Easy now. “You’ll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”.

servantboy777 can be forgiven for his misplaced wrath. I doubt there is a single member here at FreeRepublic that is happy about the way things are in Washington DC. Of course that shouldn’t be twisted into a north/south thing because I also doubt that anyone here at FreeRepublic supports the dhimmicrat regime that is currently in power.

I do agree with you that we mustn’t abandon the ballot box for the ammo box - it was waaaay premature! And discussion of the Civil War have no bearing on our current problems.


149 posted on 02/10/2011 3:34:50 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Definitely ping me to the pics! :-)


150 posted on 02/10/2011 3:38:59 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: Huck
Supremacy clause says the constitution is the supreme law of the land. The constitution does not address secession. For all things not addressed in the constitution see amendment #10.
151 posted on 02/10/2011 3:40:57 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

So getting dressed in a woman’s frilly coat isn’t cross dressing then how do you describe the fact that he shaved his beard and run?


152 posted on 02/10/2011 3:51:21 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

There is a huge volume if evidence and a SCOTUS ruling that disagrees with you. Even if secession isn’t specifically enumerated in the Constitution it is covered by the Supremacy Clause.


153 posted on 02/10/2011 3:54:51 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

lol!


154 posted on 02/10/2011 4:02:40 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: rockrr

Yeah I guess you’re right rockrr. Thanks.


155 posted on 02/10/2011 4:03:01 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: Idabilly; Huck
Thanks Idabilly. I see Puck is actin the fool again. Pay no attention to Puck. His repeated cries that our Constitution is not only flawed but fatally flawed is all he's got apparently; a one trick pony. It's my opinion our founding documents are not perfect but they're probably as close as a flawed group of mostly honorable men could realistically produce. Not a bad job all things considered. In any case, Puck has ZERO viable solutions that I've ever seen him/her/it offer up for the class.

Anyhow, the discussion also brings to mind a couple of remarks, one by William Penn:

“Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by Tyrants”
And another by John Adams:
“Our constitution is only fit for a moral and religious people. It is wholly unsuited to the governance of any other.”
There may be more to those statements than one might think at first blush. Given enough time Puck could probably find fault with the Ten Commandments; without offering any viable solutions mind you.
156 posted on 02/10/2011 4:50:28 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: usmcobra

What have you been reading? Raglans are not frilly, you sound like you need to do some more research.


157 posted on 02/10/2011 4:57:32 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
No problem.

If you want to see the Shiloh pics, click on my name to go to my about page, click "In Forum" up at the top, and then scroll down about two or three weeks worth of posts.

158 posted on 02/10/2011 5:28:49 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson
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To: rockrr; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
There is a huge volume if evidence and a SCOTUS ruling that disagrees with you. Even if secession isn’t specifically enumerated in the Constitution it is covered by the Supremacy Clause.

Non Sequitur is drowning in tears about right now. Maybe you should study up on his older post.

Any group of people that say murder is protected under the Constitution are a pack of dirty red bastards,,,, just like you. Come on there punkrr, tell us about them gays in the military and add in some on base abortion clinics.

159 posted on 02/10/2011 5:45:06 PM PST by Idabilly ("I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. ...)
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To: Idabilly

I see your recent respite from FreeRepublic hasn’t made you any more rational, any more civil, or any less pigheaded.


160 posted on 02/10/2011 5:50:46 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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