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Paul Gauguin's tribute to Vincent Van Gogh expected to fetch £10m
The Telegraph ^ | Jan 2011

Posted on 01/30/2011 4:36:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
While it certainly wouldn't have drawn such an impressively high bid had it been painted by a less renowned artist, there is a sense of style and movement and radiantly surreal life there that is distinctly Van Gogh. The color palette while vivid is also complex and well considered and the composition holds surprises as well, being more sophisticated upon further examination than initially meets the eye. While it's part of a series, this being Still Live Vase With Fifteen Sunflowers 3, I can still see $77 million for this, being somewhat iconic as it is, far more easily than I can see ten million pounds for the Gauguin that is the topic of the thread.

The only reason I can see that the Gauguin is expected to fetch such a price is the history contained within the imagery. The sunflowers are dead because the famous painter of them is dead also, and this was intended to commemorate his passing.

21 posted on 01/30/2011 5:49:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s nice that everyone has different tastes in art.

(I’m not too fond of this one. To my totally untrained eye: Scratchy-itchy in unpleasant colors.)


22 posted on 01/30/2011 5:50:01 PM PST by bannie (( ))
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To: wagglebee
I never appreciated any of the Impressionists until I saw some of the paintings in person.

We finally have a winner here!

23 posted on 01/30/2011 5:50:05 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Some things come across in a photo on a website, such as composition and subject matter. Color can fall flat or pick up an ugly cast. I don’t see color being able to carry this, it’s just not appealing on any level above and beyond the names associated with it and the moment in time that it represents.


24 posted on 01/30/2011 5:52:15 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: fish hawk
I hate Salvador Dali but wouldn't mind having a six pack of his paintings.

I just saw the Dali exhibit at the High Museum. He is so much more than melted clocks. I could stand and look at the "Temptation of St. Anthony" for hours.

25 posted on 01/30/2011 5:56:53 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: fish hawk
You must REALLY hate it when a couple of scribbled lines and a woman with the face of a monkey or her eye is under her nose goes for millions. (Picasso)

I think Picasso used to take a model to the tavern before a sitting and get her shiftfaced.

26 posted on 01/30/2011 6:00:11 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: fish hawk

No, actually I’m more fond of several modernists than I am of certain impressionists. It’s far more challenging to work sparely than to create complexity, which hides any number of flaws. A stark Picasso stands on it’s own, there is interest as far as the interplay of color theory and even music with his work from the era that you cite. His earlier stuff was actually nearly monochrome and highly textured, which I find appealing as well, more than the work for which he’s famous on some days.

Dali was a bit of a grifter, to be perfectly honest, and it’s hard to separate the man from his work. It’s entertaining to view in an Alice In Wonderland, down the rabbit hole, trippy sort of way. It’s technically proficient and his use of color isn’t bad at all. But, he ain’t no Hieronymus Bosch, that’s for sure.


27 posted on 01/30/2011 6:01:23 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
The color palette is murky and uninspired, composition is not particularly compelling and the subject matter is not just trite but somehow oddly depressing.

I think that was the point. It was taking some of Van Gogh's traditional subjects but painting it to reflect his depression and bleakness.

28 posted on 01/30/2011 6:05:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: RegulatorCountry
Some things come across in a photo on a website, such as composition and subject matter. Color can fall flat or pick up an ugly cast. I don’t see color being able to carry this, it’s just not appealing on any level above and beyond the names associated with it and the moment in time that it represents.

You points may be valid but I have seen composition and subject matter transcended in an original work by an unanticipated size or detail that does not come through in a photograph or even worse a digitized facsimile on a web-page. I suspect in this case color is much more important as it influences the impact of the composition. I know we both would still love to see it on display.

29 posted on 01/30/2011 6:06:45 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I worked in printing for years and never ceased to be amazed at the technical proficiency of Seurat's work, La Grande Jatte, etcetera. The softness and the glowing colors achieved via pointillism, fine dots of paint rather like the hexachrome printing of today.
30 posted on 01/30/2011 6:11:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: higgmeister

I wouldn’t mind seeing it in person at all, that’s true. In boom times there are often novice art collectors with loads of hot money to bid up works that really don’t merit the attention, but in a down economy such as this, you’d have to assume there’s something actually there. Then again, the hot money isn’t really all gone, either. Obama’s certainly pumping enough of it out, so I don’t know.


31 posted on 01/30/2011 6:14:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Dali was a bit of a grifter, to be perfectly honest, and it’s hard to separate the man from his work. It’s entertaining to view in an Alice In Wonderland, down the rabbit hole, trippy sort of way. It’s technically proficient and his use of color isn’t bad at all. But, he ain’t no Hieronymus Bosch, that’s for sure.

Great description. It's like when you go to the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus you can still feel the influence of P. T. Barnum, the grifter. It's just part of the purchase price of the entertainment.

32 posted on 01/30/2011 6:15:47 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: kabumpo
Our elementary school had a repro of a painting in a nice frame in the main hall. It was perhaps 3 by 4 feet. (Mind you, this was from the perspective of a little fellow; it might not have been that large.)

It was this scene of some old park with oddly dressed people enjoying themselves near the water. The colors were odd in that they seemed to be painted in dots.

Not long after, we had a field trip to downtown Chicago; I don't recall if it was a class or a family thing. A major part of the visit was to the Institute. There, I learned that the painting was Un dimanche après-midi à l'Île de la Grande Jatte by Georges Seurat, and I got to see it for my first time in all its glory.

Still later, during my college years in the 60's, I spent time in the windy city on various occasions and paid my second visit to the Institue. When I got to The Painting, and despite having seen it as a kid, I really wasn't prepared for its huge dimensions. The size is part of its impact of course.

I was also fascinated by the other impressionists, of which the Institute has, as you mentioned, an excellent collection.

Just a couple of Christmases ago during a visit with relatives in the area, I scheduled a day in downtown Chicago primarily to revisit the Art Institute and spend more time there than I previously had 40 years before.

There it was; the painting, clearly still the centerpiece of the Institute's collection.

33 posted on 01/30/2011 6:18:04 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: fish hawk

Just watched it. Very good movie.


34 posted on 01/30/2011 6:18:16 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Maybe the way the sunflowers are depicted, as drooping and dying, and the colors being so murky, reflected the sadness Gaugin might have felt about Van Gogh's untimely death. He realized what had been lost to the art world.

That being said, the painting does nothing for me. ;o)

35 posted on 01/30/2011 6:30:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RegulatorCountry
When I was in college I was within a short trip to Baltimore. My tastes kept me mostly at the Walters Gallery (since renamed the Walters Art Museum) but the Cone Collection housed at the Baltimore Museum of Art is an impressive display of post-impressionist painting with a number of pointillist pieces to include Seurat and Signac. As an artist that works on a very small scale, I can appreciate the jewel-like shimmer they achieved on their canvasses, and they are something that need to be seen in situ.
36 posted on 01/30/2011 6:36:47 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: wagglebee
A photo or even a high quality reproduction does pale in comparison to viewing a work in person, that's true. It's beginning to be apparent that what prompted my initial reaction to the painting, the somber colors, the bleak subject matter and the overall down mood was intentional on the part of Gauguin. That shifts the equation a bit in favor of a higher valuation.

It's just very surprisingly out of character. He knew Van Gogh quite well, painted portraits of him and was clearly very profoundly affected. That this comes from his Tahitian period makes it even more of an outlier, these typically are a riot of color.

I tend to associate Gauguin with paintings such as this, which is Les Alyscamps Arles:

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37 posted on 01/30/2011 6:39:27 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Joe 6-pack

There’s a connection locally with the Cone family and that collection has travelled down here, I’ve seen it. They had quite the eye and it was well worth the time.


38 posted on 01/30/2011 6:51:55 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: higgmeister; SeekAndFind

I saw that painting first hand back in 1968 or so. As an artist myself, I was very impressed, in fact, I actually touched it. Put my finger tip on one of the flowers. Very thick oil painting. I was 18 at the time. Good thing that that was back in the day before cameras everywhere and storm trooper security or I’d still be in the slammer.


39 posted on 01/30/2011 7:28:10 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: kabumpo

Art is subjective, no matter what one’s political philosophy is.


40 posted on 01/30/2011 7:59:19 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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