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For Fully Mature Black Holes, Time Stands Still
Yahoo News ^ | 1-27-11 | Clara Moskowitz

Posted on 01/28/2011 5:33:22 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

The end of a black hole’s evolution may be a mind-bending kind of space-time independent of time. A new study proposes a method to tell how far any black hole is from reaching this end state.

Black holes are some of the weirdest things in the universe. They occur when mass is packed into a tiny volume, squished to its ultimate density.

Though observations suggest black holes are prevalent in the universe, scientists still don't really understand what goes on inside them. The equations of general relativity usually used to understand the physics of the universe break down in these cases.

"It is really beyond the physics we know," said Juan Antonio Valiente Kroon, a mathematician at Queen Mary, University of London. "To understand what happens inside a black hole, we need to invent new physics."

Mercifully, the physics for the end state of a black hole is somewhat simpler. A solution to the equations of general relativity was found that produced a situation called "Kerr spacetime." Scientists now think Kerr spacetime is what happens when a black hole has reached its final evolutionary state.

"Mainly the equations of relativity are so complex that for relativistic systems, the only way you can probe these equations is by means of computer," Valiente Kroon told SPACE.com. "Solutions like this Kerr solution are really exceptional. The Kerr solution is one of the few explicitly known solutions to general relativity that have a direct physical meaning."

Kerr spacetime is time-independent, meaning that nothing in Kerr spacetime changes over time. In effect, time stands still. A black hole in such a state is essentially stationary...

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; blackhole; science; stringtheory; time
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

“Time has stood still, since we’ve been apart!”

A universe of black holes and broken hearts, living in ‘Ray Charles time’...


21 posted on 01/28/2011 6:01:52 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUJJKDa558


22 posted on 01/28/2011 6:11:31 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
"...squished to its ultimate density..."

Actually, that might not be the case. Physics just can't say what goes on inside the event horizon. The density of a galactic-mass black hole need be no denser than air. It probably is, though!
23 posted on 01/28/2011 6:13:01 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Disambiguator

That is the the song that popped in my head as soon as I read the title! I guess we Rush fans think alike.


24 posted on 01/28/2011 6:14:17 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: GeronL

do NOT google “mature black hoes” for pics either.

GAAAAK!


25 posted on 01/28/2011 6:17:23 PM PST by Route395
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Clearly time is nothing but movement through space in near-zero gravity. And, it’s relative:)


26 posted on 01/28/2011 6:18:31 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Route395

lol


27 posted on 01/28/2011 6:19:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: SunkenCiv

/mark


28 posted on 01/28/2011 6:21:24 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It will turn out that inside of a black hole a new “big bang” occurs. In short, the black hole creates a new universe. Just a hunch.


29 posted on 01/28/2011 6:40:03 PM PST by rbg81
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To: GeronL

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/cops-charge-nine-women-wild-florida-brawl

Video is quite entertaining....


30 posted on 01/28/2011 6:43:32 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: GSP.FAN

I did notice that 2 of the 3 women mentioned in the article were under 21.... Club Zanzibar should have their liquor license pulled.

I can only imagine they were drinking, but I guess its possible they were sober and really really really stupid


31 posted on 01/28/2011 6:48:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

What's all dis about da' black Hoes'?

32 posted on 01/28/2011 6:55:42 PM PST by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

no,,,time does not stop.


33 posted on 01/28/2011 6:56:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: SunkenCiv; CJ Wolf; houeto; Quix; null and void; B4Ranch; Whenifhow; Silentgypsy; FromLori; ...
Time Stand Still ping.

"Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping.


Ping list dealing with odd space phenomena and solar events.

FReepmail me if you want on or off

The Comedian's "Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping list...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

34 posted on 01/28/2011 7:00:16 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet.)
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To: The Comedian

hmmmmmmm


35 posted on 01/28/2011 7:06:26 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: The Comedian

I thought that time past a black hole’s event horizon only appears to an outside observer to stand still.


36 posted on 01/28/2011 8:02:34 PM PST by TheOldLady ("...Communists in Congress, and Islamics everywhere, are showing who they truly are." - Lazamataz)
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To: Bullish

It’s 10PM Central Time.

I’m taking bets on how long that pic will last.

My personal guess is going.... going... gone by 10:23PM CDST.


37 posted on 01/28/2011 8:05:04 PM PST by shibumi (I am the Astro-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

For Fully Mature Black Holes, Time Stands Still At 3 Bucks a Minute


38 posted on 01/28/2011 8:07:19 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Check out this office black hole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5_Msrdg3Hk


39 posted on 01/28/2011 8:23:15 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

40 posted on 01/28/2011 8:37:15 PM PST by shibumi (I am the Astro-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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