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Electoral college math for Sarah Palin (she is very electable)
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Posted on 11/26/2010 10:58:03 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative

It is early. The only thing that stays the same is that everything changes with time. But there are a few things we can assume with high confidence, the economic situation will decide the 2012 election and the economy does not look to be recovering very fast..if at all. Then the question for Obama will be how can he get the toothpaste back into the tube in reguards to the unpopular health care bill and what will be a 14 trillion dollar national debt. How can he generate the same energy among younger voters that he did in 2008 unless there is a game changer ? Sarah Palin has to connect with people and having strong message. All she has to do is be an alternative.

The 2012 election will be won or lost in the Great Lakes region. In 2008 States such as OH, MI and PA are leaning Republican. New Republican governors are preparing to take office. Iowa is always a close state. Although Minnesota and Illinois are still leaning toward the Democrats, Wisconsin is turning in our favor. Indiana is coming back.

Elsewhere..

I believe Obama has serious problems in 3 southern states, Virginia, North Carolina and especially Florida where the healthcare bill is very unpopular.

In the Mountain west we are still looking strong in most states. Of course Colorado is always a true toss up. The trouble spots are Nevada and New Mexico. I still believe these states will be in play.

Sarah Palin could win with 274 electoral votes by carrying the Republican leaning Mid Atlantic states that Bush carried in 04 plus Ohio, Florida and Colorado. But then you factor in the rest of the Midwest. Throw in Michigan, Iowa, PA, Wisconsin. There would be an additional 52 electoral college votes in play. Then a secondary group of states such as Nevada, New Mexico and New Hampshire and there are 15 more.

The bottom line is.. there are 161 Obama 2008 electoral votes in play and atleast 100 of them are leaning in our direction. We don't have to run the table this time. There are several paths to victory.


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To: NittanyLion

Barbour, Christie, Daniels or McDonnell.
***Barbour Who? Christie Who? Daniels Who? McDonnell Who?

Why haven’t the MSM been hounding these guys for their conservative beliefs?


81 posted on 11/27/2010 4:32:21 AM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Why does it matter. Would the same stuff not happen as pres?


82 posted on 11/27/2010 4:33:49 AM PST by Rippin (q)
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To: NittanyLion

All I know is that the last time I felt good about this country is when she was standing on that stage in Minnesota. Now we are in a malaise.

If the media goes after them like they have Palin, they will the same problems to overcome. thats why we can’t appease the liberals and the media.


83 posted on 11/27/2010 4:34:35 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
18 months from now, things will likely look a lot different. Palin has been building super recognition and has what seem to be touchy-feely things going on, but they will buiold even more recognition and a comfort factor.

To summarily reject her now is like tacitly agreeing with the MSM and those who really fear her ability to get folks to focus on what she is saying/doing.

84 posted on 11/27/2010 4:35:35 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Rippin

if you do the research you will find the answer is no. Alaska’s ethics laws are different.


85 posted on 11/27/2010 4:35:44 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: Kevmo

Likely because they’re far harder targets than Palin. None of them lend themselves to SNL spoofs as easily as she does.

I think she’s great. I just don’t make the mistake of believing the rest of the electorate is like me.


86 posted on 11/27/2010 4:37:03 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

you are going to let SNL pick your nominee ?

do you know how insane that sounds in real life


87 posted on 11/27/2010 4:38:16 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: wideawake
She was briefly governor of a state with a population smaller than Los Angeles before she resigned
Actually, the population of Alaska is 1/3 the population of Las Vegas... it's 1/15 the population of Los Angeles.

The population of Alaska is very small.

88 posted on 11/27/2010 4:38:16 AM PST by samtheman
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Don’t blame me - blame the significant and critical independent voting bloc that is influenced by that stuff.

If you don’t mind my asking, how old are you?


89 posted on 11/27/2010 4:40:49 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

No, we’re going to let you pick our nominee so we can let Obama win 40 states.


90 posted on 11/27/2010 4:40:56 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

That sounds really naive. If there is one thing the Left is efficient at it is the destruction of conservatives who have their number. They don’t care what the laws are.


91 posted on 11/27/2010 4:41:11 AM PST by Rippin (q)
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To: NittanyLion

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92 posted on 11/27/2010 4:41:29 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Truman was an incumbent which carries a lot weight. Nixon's intelligence was never questioned and he lost his first run for the presidency due to his appearance at the first debate.(It should be noted his physical appearance on television added to his repudation of being less than honest.) Reagan through his acting and as a spokesmen for GE gave him the ability to come across as likeable with considerable poise. Furthermore, Reagan served as governor of a large state which provided him with the all important executive experience. Reagan had already established a persona before the media had an opportunity to create false first impressions. The media from the beginning created the impression that Clinton was brillant and a moderate.

In the coming election cycle, I will not be voting FOR a candidate but AGAINST Obama. Anything that will defeat Obama becomes my primary objective. Obama with his executive orders and the like will limit our ability to undo at least some of the damage Obama has wrought. Triage for our country is the order of the day.

I say all of the above and my earlier comments as a paleoconservative of the first order. In the last election cycle, I voted for Barr because I was absolutely certain that Obama would take my state and by voting for Barr I could register my protest against McCain. And I refrained from voting for my all but winner RINO senator as a protest. My actions may have been futile but it was my way of retaining what self respect I had.

93 posted on 11/27/2010 4:42:31 AM PST by monocle
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To: NittanyLion

She’s a conservative with name recognition.

If your vision of an ideal candidate is someone who doesn’t lend themselves to SNL spoofs, then you are a fool. It’s OBVIOUS that the reason why hollywood doesn’t like her is that they don’t agree with her. If hollywood likes some GOP candidate, it’s usually a sign that they’re a namby pamby RINO. The reason why Reagan was given a slight pass was because he came from Hollywood. aRINOld isn’t eligible, not that that means anything any more.


94 posted on 11/27/2010 4:43:51 AM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but get another couple election cycles under your belt and you’ll see where the rest of us are coming from.


95 posted on 11/27/2010 4:45:39 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Kevmo

See the first paragraph of my #89.


96 posted on 11/27/2010 4:47:26 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Rippin
She didn't quit the governorship to "become a rock star," but I suspect you know that. She quit because she felt that the endless stream of ethics charges was paralyzing her ability to govern, not to mention costing her hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend against. I happen to believe that she is the genuine article who is willing to put her state above herself. Plus, when she resigned and handed the reigns over to the Lt Gov, she knew that things would again move forward in Alaska. Couple that with the fact that, when she did resign, she did not just go home and crawl in a hole - she went out and helped get a whole bunch of conservatives elected. She worked tirelessly campaigning for conservatives all over the country. She wasn't doing that to be "a rock star," she was doing in to get conservatives elected and she had a pretty good record if you ask me.

The books she is writing and the show on Alaska is her way of letting the American people get to know who she is without the negative filter of the media. She is taking her message to teh People, like Reagan often did.

No, friend, she didn't quit to become a rock star (unless rock stars like subjecting themselves to untold smearing in the press), she resigned her position in order to take the fight in a different direction, and thank God she did! I happen to see in Sarah Palin someone who truly loves her country and is concerned about the direction both the country and even the Republican party has taken.

97 posted on 11/27/2010 4:51:50 AM PST by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think its necessary to remember that only half of the people who fear a Palin presidency are liberals. “Blue blood” Republicans fear and oppose her as well. I think that Palin has enough grassroots support to win the primaries but I would put it past some institutional GOP’ers to run an “independent” in the General Election (ala Murkowski} to bleed off votes and assure an Obama victory.

Many in the GOP are satisfied resisting Obama rather then defeating Obama. Big govt programs and earmarks that they want they can blame on Obama while whipping up support for themselves as the opposition!


98 posted on 11/27/2010 4:56:14 AM PST by Little Pharma
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To: JaguarXKE

You are right that she loves her country and wants to take it in a different direction and sees that the GOP needs a re-start. I’m with her on all that. I love her as a king-maker.

But I’m sorry I think she loves the spotlight a great deal. And yes, the downside of doing what she did is that she is now a rock star, not a serious presidential candidate and going straight to the people as Pres was Reagan genius, doing it as candidate is weak IMO.

Unfortunately, she may well be the best option. I’m just not impressed.


99 posted on 11/27/2010 5:00:07 AM PST by Rippin (q)
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To: donmeaker

The electoral vote problem is one that most don’t even consider around here. Palin has very little to bring to the over all picture on that. That would leave Palin having to win more states.

They also expect a candidate to win their home state. Miller, supported by Palin has lost to Lisa in a write in bid. Could Palin win Alaska anymore?

Gore lost Tennesssee and the rest is history.


100 posted on 11/27/2010 5:04:10 AM PST by dforest
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