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Time For I Told You So; And for war…It’s inevitable now
News Real Blog ^ | 2010 November 26 | by Resa Kirkland

Posted on 11/26/2010 9:42:00 AM PST by Free in Texas

Let’s dispense from the beginning with the idea that more “sternly-worded letters,” sanctions, condemnations, or talks (serious this time!) are the answer to North Korea’s dual declarations of war. They have never worked, because when dealing with evil, you must speak to it in the language it understands. Evil only understands violence.

And yes, it’s time for violence.

It gives me no pleasure to say so, but the pattern of history has borne out this truth: there will never be peace so long as only one side is willing to abide by the rules for peace. The pictures coming from Yeonpeyong, South Korea, are chillingly reminiscent of Pearl Harbor. But did we get the “a date which will live in infamy” speech, which Pres. Roosevelt delivered only 1 day after the December 7, 1941 attack?

Nope.

Here’s what we got from the Eunuch in Chief: “…too soon to discuss ways the U.S. military might deter the reclusive communist state from another strike.”

And from his lapdog Stephen Bosworth: “I would not at all accept that our policy toward North Korea is a failure,” Bosworth said after flying to Seoul to meet South Korean officials. “They are a difficult interlocutor,” he said of the North, “but we’re not throwing our policy away.”

While the North’s uranium program is disappointing and provocative, he told reporters, it isn’t surprising. “This is not a crisis.”

The best lines are from PJ Crowley: “…the Obama administration would take its time to assess the available information. He said the revelation of the new uranium enrichment facility would violate Pyongyang’s obligation to stop pursuing nuclear weapons but also may be what he called a ‘publicity stunt.’”

But my personal favorite came from State Department spokesman Mark Toner, who called North Korea’s actions “very, very bad.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
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Will it still be a shootin' war if we are not allowed to shoot?
1 posted on 11/26/2010 9:42:05 AM PST by Free in Texas
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To: Free in Texas
The Obama Administration has already come out for "Diplomacy"!

Unbelievable.

Can't wait to see what that is going to look like.

Obama diplomacy

2 posted on 11/26/2010 9:48:47 AM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: Free in Texas

Hussein said he would meet with Iran’s leader..... What’s he said about meeting with NK’s leader?


3 posted on 11/26/2010 9:49:36 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

He’ll still be deciding on an “appropriate diplomatc response” long after Seoul is reduced to smoldering embers.


5 posted on 11/26/2010 9:55:37 AM PST by Free in Texas (Martin Luther King was a Republican and Karl Marx played the stock market...'nuff said.)
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To: Free in Texas
The response should have taken the form total silence for a day or two, then a few thousand JDAMs taking out the North Korean artillery emplacements that threaten Seoul, followed by Tomahawks obliterating the NK presidential residence.

Then total silence.

6 posted on 11/26/2010 9:55:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Free in Texas

The missile above NAS Point Mugu was probably an accidentally fired SF Booster.

And I don’t think I believe in any of the other ‘missile’ stuff.

Bu the rest of the article is sound. NK and China are pushing as far as they can until they meet steel. China doesn’t want war, it wants its foreign policy aims and if it can get them by using NK as a sockpuppet then it will do so.


7 posted on 11/26/2010 9:57:36 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Free in Texas

Oh, we’ll shoot. And then there will be a civilian casualty on US TV and the Code Pinkos and Hollywood action heroes who hate violence will come out screaming. We’ll set impossible rules of engagement to show the world how humane we are. Then, we’ll slowly and very expensively lose another war. (Sarcastic)Yay!

We need to pass a law that tells the world that in the future, we will use smart munitions for the first 24 hours only of any conflict and lots of dumb munitions falling out of B-52s for the next 364 days. (Perhaps we can throw Code Pinkos and Hollywood action heroes out of the bombers too.)

They can decide who long the war lasts and how bad it will hurt. People like Lil Kim need to learn that when you mess with the US, you are going to bleed. Let’s stop killing good American servicepeople in hopeless wars that we don’t have the balls to win and start killing foreigners. That’s how every great military leader in history got things done.


8 posted on 11/26/2010 9:58:46 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

From 2009, when unicorns of hope and happiness over “change” were still crapping skittles at the White House

quote:” President Barack Obama’s proposed comprehensive diplomacy that combines the strengths of multilateral negotiations with the unique benefits of direct bilateral engagement presents a sensible and practical approach to the North Korean nuclear issue. The change in administration in the United States provides a rare opportunity to provide a fresh impetus to the denuclearization process. It is up to Washington and Pyongyang, in close cooperation with the other capitals, to seize upon this opportunity to proactively engage in negotiations that can successfully overcome not only the immediate obstacles but also the longer-term challenges posed by the North Korean nuclear weapons program.” end quote
http://www.nti.org/e_research/e3_six_party_obama_north_korea.html

...... supposedly obama sent Kim a personal letter....hack hack hack (pardon.....hairball) ... maybe it’ll turn up for sale on eBay


9 posted on 11/26/2010 10:01:42 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: PapaBear3625

Agreed. However the Marxist-in-chief will never allow the destruction of his ideological bretheren in Pyongyang.


10 posted on 11/26/2010 10:03:08 AM PST by Free in Texas (Martin Luther King was a Republican and Karl Marx played the stock market...'nuff said.)
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To: Free in Texas
But my personal favorite came from State Department spokesman Mark Toner, who called North Korea’s actions “very, very bad.”

is that a "double dog" condemnation in diplospeak? Is the dreaded triple-dog "very, very, very" next?

11 posted on 11/26/2010 10:03:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: Free in Texas

The “Axis of Evil” was right on target now wasn’t it?


12 posted on 11/26/2010 10:06:54 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Free in Texas

Feel free to “shoot” all you want. Just keep me out of it.


13 posted on 11/26/2010 10:08:57 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Free in Texas

“But my personal favorite came from State Department spokesman Mark Toner, who called North Korea’s actions “very, very bad.”

I’ll bet he was wagging his finger sternly.


14 posted on 11/26/2010 10:20:23 AM PST by billhilly
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To: Bryanw92
Sadly, I think you have described a very accurate scenario for what will probably occur if hostilities continue to escalate. Our foreign policy as well as our national resolve to defeat our avowed enemies has been negated by the America-haters within our own government and civilian population.
15 posted on 11/26/2010 10:22:07 AM PST by Free in Texas (Martin Luther King was a Republican and Karl Marx played the stock market...'nuff said.)
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To: Free in Texas

You can bet Iran is watching our response closely. If we don’t step up to the plate for SK, Iran may correctly assume we’d not defend Israel either.


16 posted on 11/26/2010 10:32:41 AM PST by umgud
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To: Bryanw92

Yellow casualties don’t bother the US.

I know its not PC to say so, and I dont agree. But its the truth.

I dont think shooting in Korea is going to do anyone any good. And I really don’t think we should be there. But, we are.

So, in the end there doesn’t seem to be a lot of appetite for confrontation with China, nor them us. This keeps spouting off. And nothing of any significance will happen.

[And with my history of prognostication, the Norks are probably massing as I type.....]


17 posted on 11/26/2010 10:38:36 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: Free in Texas

There is also the concept of the art of fighting without fighting. Sow the seeds of confusion in the enemy’s midst. And so on...... Let the enemy spill its blood for their country.


18 posted on 11/26/2010 10:39:31 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: umgud

Iran might talk big about Israel, but they don’t have the capabilities to take out Israel and not suffer significantly.

They’ll talk a big game about Israel (and saying so clearly diverts attention, just look at these threads), but they are more likely to go after Iraq or Afghanistan.


19 posted on 11/26/2010 10:40:42 AM PST by MikefromOhio (There is no truth to the rumor that Ted Kennedy was buried at sea.....)
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To: Free in Texas

I haven’t seen anything indicating we aren’t going forward with the joint exercise this weekend. If so, NK’s bluff is being called.

If NK fires on us, our bluff is called. I’m going to guess they don’t fire on us, but do fire again at relatively helpless SK targets.

Which leaves Obama swinging in the wind, again. Dictators are learning how to wage asymetrical warfare against the USA. They have learned this from Al Queda. It will continue until we find the will to use our power in a full-throated manner. Will we? I’m afraid not. For now, Bin Laden is right. We are a paper tiger.

Obama is weak, and many will pay the price for his weakness.


20 posted on 11/26/2010 10:43:44 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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