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Posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:55 PM PST by Gargantua
Exploding the “That Wasn’t A Missile” Myth
By Gargantua
What appeared to be a missile rose from below the horizon, streaking into the sky off of California leaving a condensation trail identical to the kind that have been filmed being left by a ground-or-sea-to-air launch of a Minuteman missile or ICBM.
First, the Government was inexplicably mum on the topic. Next came a series of sometimes contradictory explanations. Now, days after the event, the finally agreed-upon explanation hits every news station all at once. “It’s the con-trail of a jet returning from across the Pacific.”
There are two glaring problems with this obviously false “explanation.”
First, the shape and density of the con-trail.
A missile launch would be more dense and wide at its base, just as we see in the images we’ve been shown. A jet’s con-trail would be thinner and smaller the further away as it trailed off toward the horizon. We see the opposite in the availale video footage.
Second, the lighting.
In the video footage, we see stratus clouds out over the ocean behind the rising missile. The setting sun is shining on, and illuminating, the bottom of those clouds. On the con-trail, however, the illumination from the sun appears on the right-hand-edge; just as it would if this were a launching missile’s vertically rising con-trail. There is no illumination of the underside of the “jet’s horizontally oriented con-trail” because it is not a jet’s con-trail, it is a vertically-oriented missile’s launch contrail with the sun lighting up the side away from us. Very obviously so.
The Government must think we are at least as stupid as they are if they think this lame explanation is going to “fly.”
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That is absolutely true. The only evidence are the two videos and the unpublished raw pictures that Rick Warren took. What Contrailscience has put out is "analysis" not evidence. There seem to be a lot of people who don't understand the difference between evidence and analysis.
Only one person EVER stated that Gil Leyvas "observed" the phenomema for ten minutes and that was a CBS writer who ad-libbed the comment. He did not quote anyone.
People keep stating it as fact that Gil Leyvas said he taped it for ten minutes when that is false. The same people who say nothing coming from CBS can be trusted. Yet they use that editorial comment made by a CBS staff writer as "fact" and "evidence."
Simple.
1) He was there to film the sunset as a back drop to the weather forecast. He saw it while he was filming the sunset.
2) It was sweeps week. They are encouraged to find interesting video or stories for sweeps week. During sweeps week, they go out in the helicopter just to locate and film interesting video for the news production. From that perspective, it was very successful sweeps week video footage. And the TV station made the most of it.
Did Gil Leyvas tell you that?
For reasons of your own, you are desperately working to deceive Americans into believing that the plume from a missile launch was "mistaken" for a common overhead airliner contrail.
Yes! You have the right of it! A vast cabal is working to make sure YOU don't know the truth of a mysterious contrail off the coast of California! (Cue Twilight Zone music) Do not touch your dial. WE are in control! MWAH ha ha ha ha! (Makes the Dr Evil pinky move)/sarc
You are clinging to this notion that you were nearly obliterated by a missile a few weeks ago. Seek help. That is generally known as hysteria. And now you are accusing people of being frauds, and liars, and conspiring to keep the truth from you.
Yeah. It is what it is. And it is/was an airplane!
Not spam, just asking you missile folks to put up some data to prove your point. You all get quiet when people ask you to prove your outrageous conspiracy.
This is why arguing with conspiracy theorists is so frustrating, because, they always accuse people of being part of "them". Especially when they are dis proven, its some sort of defense mechanism. Of course you can't possibly see how ludicrous your paranoia is that you believe we are all government plants out to get you. Seriously. Focus on the "slowest missile ever" and give some proof, who saw the sub? Who saw the "launch" from 50 miles N and S, where is an ionized cloud from the craft entering space, etc, etc etc. You have zoomed in video, an optical illusion. Maybe Ape's "lighting expert" is not who he claims to be! He is a disinformationalist out to make you all look crazy! Its a conspiracy!!!!!
Yes.
Not to take issue with either you or Gil but it seems odd to me that any news camera would not have time stamping of its recorded content.
No, it’s a quote. Brig. Gen. Cash is not the author of that article and he didn’t write that for WND or Joseph Farah. To say that he is an author for either is false.
Personally, I don't like to see FR embarrassed since there are folks I refer to this site and who know I visit here often. I believe that the continuing of the missile theory by, let's call them "Missile Pushers" is an embarrassment.
Fortunately, IMHO, it's only a few now - and I don't mean the obvious Chinese "government plants."
FReegards... :)
And Cash gets his facts wrong here: “NORAD’s muted response was simply that North America was not threatened…”
Wrong. And then he bases his objection on this wrong statement.
Doesn’t anybody fact check anymore?
Would love to get an exact time of observation for the helicopter. All we have is around 5:15 pm. Can he check to see if his radio call back to base was recorded ? Perhaps we can get an exact time reference there. There are just to many unknowns to be able to physically correlate this plume with any planes contrail. You can say, hey, it looks close, but close wont stop the missiles.
Found that information in a second hand news report published on the web.
We now know it only was visible under powered flight for 2 to 3 minutes according to what was reported on this thread. So the going too slow canard is in the trash bin.
You are now citing a weather satellite image produced by a NASA scientist who claimed it was the contrail for the AWE808 flight. Not the UPS902 flight. And sat images of contrails will always show the top of the contrail. The satellite is much higher then the contrail.
And General Cash also explained how he was able to determine it was a missile and not a plane. Hard core science based on actual training he received from the US government for air missions over Vietnam. In that training he was schooled on how to determine if an object was a missile or a plane. Apparently those skills came in handy while flying over Vietnam.
We have. Over and over again. Video of the missile launch is not enough. Analysis of the physics involved with the missile launch is not enough. Pointing out the numerous errors from the changing plane theory is not enough. Testimony from expert witnesses that it was a missile launch is not enough. You ignore it all and continue to lie by claiming we have produced no evidence. How is your activity of ignorance actually supporting the plane theory ?
No you haven’t, where is the international outrage? Where are the navy ships flocking to the area? Etc.
You have crappy video that is zoomed in, and a bunch of paranoic folks wanting to make this into a missile, in the face of overwhelming evidence and common sense.
You have NO data.
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