Posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:55 PM PST by Gargantua
Exploding the That Wasnt A Missile Myth
By Gargantua
What appeared to be a missile rose from below the horizon, streaking into the sky off of California leaving a condensation trail identical to the kind that have been filmed being left by a ground-or-sea-to-air launch of a Minuteman missile or ICBM.
First, the Government was inexplicably mum on the topic. Next came a series of sometimes contradictory explanations. Now, days after the event, the finally agreed-upon explanation hits every news station all at once. Its the con-trail of a jet returning from across the Pacific.
There are two glaring problems with this obviously false explanation.
First, the shape and density of the con-trail.
A missile launch would be more dense and wide at its base, just as we see in the images weve been shown. A jets con-trail would be thinner and smaller the further away as it trailed off toward the horizon. We see the opposite in the availale video footage.
Second, the lighting.
In the video footage, we see stratus clouds out over the ocean behind the rising missile. The setting sun is shining on, and illuminating, the bottom of those clouds. On the con-trail, however, the illumination from the sun appears on the right-hand-edge; just as it would if this were a launching missiles vertically rising con-trail. There is no illumination of the underside of the jets horizontally oriented con-trail because it is not a jets con-trail, it is a vertically-oriented missiles launch contrail with the sun lighting up the side away from us. Very obviously so.
The Government must think we are at least as stupid as they are if they think this lame explanation is going to fly.
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“Right, I’m a “loon” with a “lame assed” post...
...which your most recent reply to was reply number three-hundred-ninety-seven (397). And counting”
Ok, my bad. You are a loon, the grammar police, and a stalker. Thanks for informing me on how many things I’ve commented on. I had no idea.
That is a very good question. First I would like verification that they did seize it. I have only seen one unsourced post say that it was. Assuming it was it clearly says they have doubts and want to examine it closely. If they have doubts that says a lot of things. Some very worrisome.
Something did catch my eye when looking at still pics on the CBS sitethe last pic, I think #13, has captured a blue line appearing to be in the same trajectory as the contrail. What is that?
I saw that and I don't know. One FReeper has a theory about it here and has been asked to clarify some points about it here. No reply so far.
If that is the objects left over true path, wouldnt that angle to the ground be measurable?
Only very roughly if at all. There are too many unknowns. Primarily the exact position of the line in the sky assuming it can be reasonably established that it is a remnant of the flight. Position and angle of the camera that took the pic.
I'm no stalker. You're the one assaulting me with unprovoked ad hominem. You wrote to me first, remember? Your first script to me was an umprovoked insult. The written record is right here, in this thread. Black and white.
Have a warm and Happy Thanksgiving. You are loved.
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I'm pretty sure they scramble an F-16 to meet Flight 808 from Hawai'i every day.
Well... maybe not. LMAO!
That some people here still believe it was an eastbound jet (when the government that they trust for virtually nothing else is the only source of this fabrication!) is beyond irrational. Lt. General McInerny says "...definitely a missile..." and it's "just another opinion."
This is not "being fooled." This is a "sticking your head in the sand" equivalent form of abject, quivering cowardice and snivelling, mewling denial. I cannot adequately express how it turns my stomach. There was a time when "being American" meant something worth saying.
Hell, the snake eater who told me to "resist authority" is willfully sucking up the Gummint lie on this one. Go figure. Maybe he got hard really up for money and had to sell a kidney... and his spine.
But hey, to each his own, right?
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“I forgive you, and I’ll honestly pray for you.”
I never asked for your forgiveness or your prayers.
Thanks. I’ll try to find a source for that seizure info.
Flight Tracker is not the government. The data is there, the US flight was there, it landed in PHX about an hour after this, that is a fact, there is no gray area on that.
I notice that no one has an answer for the lack of an ionized gas cloud that would be there if it was a rocket. I notice that no one has an answer for no one N or S of where the contrail was has reported it.
Contrails happen, weather happens, optical illusions happen, there was no missile and there is not one scintilla of proof from any one that there was a missile, versus a whole pile of factual data showing that it was an airliner.
I have the perspective down very well. Enjoy your tin foil and your childish insults.
Free Republic should be beyond this foolish 'Truther' kind of irraltionalsim.
Relatively close? Out West, you can see mountains from the highway for 50 or even more miles depending on the location and the height of the mountain.
Looking out at the 'flat' ocean from the beach with the curvature of the earth, the horizon is something less than 10 miles away. A passenger jet covers 10 miles in 2 or 3 minutes.
Seeing contrails like that is not at all unusual.
Irrationality. You meant to say "irrationality.
"Irrationalism" is a philosophy term; a late-19th-, early 20th-century philosophical fad that purported to improve mans grasp of "life" by magnifying it beyond the rational to its more grand (or "aggrandized," as in "a contrived improvement" depending on your perspective...) dimensions.
Dittz.
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Irrationality. You meant to say "irrationality."
"Irrationalism" is a philosophy term; a late-19th-, early 20th-century philosophical fad that purported to improve mans grasp of "life" by magnifying it beyond the rational to its more grand (or "aggrandized," as in "a contrived improvement" depending on your perspective...) dimensions.
Dittz.
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See how easy it is to be humble? Well done.
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You really need to work on your deception technique, or they will fire you.
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Where is your proof that there was a F-16 scrambled? Got documentation? I’ve flown from Hawaii to PHX about 50 times, in 757-200 aircraft we come back along that exact path every time.
I worked in the industry have seen dozens of contrails that look just like that. Again, answer me this: Why no ionized gas cloud? In an actual launch there is a glowing gas cloud, easily visible after sunset. Where are the reports of this?
Also, there were many aircraft in the area with LAX, ONT, SNA, LGB and BUR, where are the pilots reporting this launch?
Its contrail, and you have zero proof, and there is piles of proof against you. Such kook-farts from the paranoid crowd.
Yes. As compared to the distance of a normal horizon. Ever been in the city of Palm Springs about 1 to 2 hours before sunset ?
The F-16 is visible coming in, at altitude, from the right of the video at 46 seconds. Slope.
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