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Just Spoke W/ Very Senior Ret. USAF Officer. Says USAF, NORAD, Etc. Have "No Clue" About Missile.
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Posted on 11/09/2010 2:03:14 PM PST by MindBender26

Just spoke with old friend, very senior retired USAF general officer/pilot. Says his contacts, many of whom were his "boys," have no idea what Pacific missile is/was

As I was calling him, he was calling me to run my old network traps to see if anyone at the network desks in NY or DC have any idea what this was!

Data from video seems to be that it was large, ballistic, (not cruise) sub-launched. Course seemed to be trans-polar, so could have impacted in Arctic, Russian Far East, China, etc.

Current guesses... and these are wild guesses (some from the O Club at his lunch)

1: Crazy Russian or Chinese sub captain. No explosion because they didn't want one, or captain did not have correct codes for the PAL.

2: Islamic.......... ????? Demonstration?????

3: Hoax... but that seems way to far fetched.

Navy is also supposedly bat sh*t over this because there was no acoustic detection of sub!

NORAD scratching head ????

There may be an explanation, but no one knows what it was... or is!


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To: mojito

>>>Unless there are some fast answers here in a few hours, we’re going to have a full blown national security crisis to deal with while our beloved trollop in chief is dancing around over seas.

Few hours my butt. The time for a crisis while man-child president plays was the moment that thing hit the sky.


101 posted on 11/09/2010 2:35:09 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: MindBender26

“Terrorists could steal, purchase, or be provided a nuclear weapon and perform an EMP attack against the United States simply by launching a primitive Scud missile off a freighter near our shores,” he said. “We do not need to be thinking about missiles coming over the pole. There are thousands of ships out there, particularly in the North Atlantic shipping lanes, and any one of them could have a Scud missile on board.

“The congressman also raised the question of retaliation – and how an EMP sneak attack could not only go undetected, but that it might be impossible to find out who was responsible after the fact.”

“If it were launched from the ocean, we would not know who launched it,” he said.”

“Yet, over time, an EMP attack would likely result in much more death than a nuclear attack on a major city, he said.”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44866


102 posted on 11/09/2010 2:38:17 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: JOAT
I stand corrected..but a few question..

Isn't that a twin rotor helo, at the start of the clip, oriented towards the missile track?

That'sa a high traffic civil aviation area..lots of bug jets in the air..surely at least ONE pilot would have seen it..( kind of hard to miss) and filed a report with ATC..

103 posted on 11/09/2010 2:40:15 PM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: MindBender26
Governor Moonbeam Brown trying to get home...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

104 posted on 11/09/2010 2:40:32 PM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: apoxonu

Actually, that’s the largest model rocket ever built.

And it still didn’t even come close to the altitude of the one in the news footage.

Notice how long the ‘burn’ is on the model compared to the one on the news.

Nope. Not even close.


105 posted on 11/09/2010 2:43:09 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
What I’d really like to know is why they’re so freely admitting they don’t know $#!+.

Because what they do know is far far worse than the embarrassment of saying they don't know?

106 posted on 11/09/2010 2:43:52 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 658 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: MindBender26
Navy is also supposedly bat sh*t over this because there was no acoustic detection of sub!

Could it have been an underwater pre-positioned site? I assume the Navy's been out to check... What do satellites show?

107 posted on 11/09/2010 2:44:59 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Bigh4u2

Yeah, having finally found the footage everyone was talking about, I agree.

Another Freeper also pointed out that anyone sending up that large a rocket would probably seek publicity.

Another comment pointed out that a rocket that large would have to be FAA registered.

Oh well, it was a thought.


108 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:08 PM PST by apoxonu
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To: bigbob
“We don’t know” is a safer response than “We know, but you’re not going to like the answer”.

That said, what's your best guess?

109 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:41 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: null and void

We’re on it...Just wait...We’re okay....


110 posted on 11/09/2010 2:49:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: MindBender26
I've always believed Jack Bauer kind of stuff is happening all the time and have been amazed we don't see more evidence.

111 posted on 11/09/2010 2:50:38 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box thing working out for you?)
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To: MindBender26

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/pentagon-cant-explain-missile-off-california-coast/
(scroll down for video)

At 27 seconds into the video there is an aircraft flying from the right side of screen in the direction of the contrail. I think I saw a light flash on the aircraft. Not sure.

Any reports of pilots reporting seeing anything in the area?


112 posted on 11/09/2010 2:51:34 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: The Comedian

Gov. Moonbeam has a rocket in his pocket?


113 posted on 11/09/2010 2:58:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: JOAT

‘s what I get for posting before reading the whole thread... ;)

In my defense, I spent time going back and checking to see if I remembered correctly, and it was much more than 7 seconds! (Really. I did. Honest!)


114 posted on 11/09/2010 3:00:27 PM PST by Old Student
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To: az_gila

Uh, there is potentially a hugh difference between seeing the “cloud” generated and seeing the aftermath. The video shows the “cloud” being made.


115 posted on 11/09/2010 3:01:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Any reports of pilots reporting seeing anything in the area?

Good point. Surely the air traffic control for the area would be able to confirm if an aircraft was on that flight path. Have they been asked?

116 posted on 11/09/2010 3:01:44 PM PST by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: null and void
Because what they do know is far far worse than the embarrassment of saying they don't know...
117 posted on 11/09/2010 3:02:42 PM PST by LucyT (... When you don't know what to do, don't do anything until you know what to do.)
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To: MindBender26
Just spoke with old friend, very senior retired USAF general officer/pilot. Says his contacts, many of whom were his "boys," have no idea what Pacific missile is/was

No offense, but retired, no matter what rank, is probably well outside of "need to know" territory.

118 posted on 11/09/2010 3:03:21 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Bigh4u2

Stealth?


119 posted on 11/09/2010 3:03:27 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: LaybackLenny

Surely you jest, they aren’t smart enough to know what this could possibly mean.


120 posted on 11/09/2010 3:05:22 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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