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Breaking curveball too good to be true
R&D Daily ^ | Thursday, October 14, 2010 | Carl Marziali

Posted on 10/14/2010 3:40:23 PM PDT by bunkerhill7

Breaking curveball too good to be true

Curveballs curve and fastballs go really fast, but new research suggests that no pitcher can make a curveball “break” or a fastball “rise.”

(Excerpt) Read more at rdmag.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: aerodynamics; baseball; curve; curveball; physics; sports
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To: Onelifetogive
The "break" is not. The ball will travel on a curved trajectory from pitcher to catcher. Not a straight line to near the plate and then a break.

Not true, the forward velocity keeps the trajectory straight, as it nears the plate it "breaks" because of less velocity, and a build up of air on one side of the ball. That is like calling my curve ball at bowling a long curved trajectory...it breaks at about the 3/4 mark of the lane.

21 posted on 10/14/2010 4:21:38 PM PDT by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: bunkerhill7

Curveballs curve and fastballs go really fast, but new research suggests that no pitcher can make a curveball “break” or a fastball “rise.”

Then I am sure this researcher will be the next Babe Ruth.

Nothin to it.


22 posted on 10/14/2010 4:22:35 PM PDT by Adder (Note to self: 11-2-10 Take out the Trash!!!)
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To: Onelifetogive

I new a guy with a tremendous “riseball” wiffle pitch, I don’t think I ever hit it.

Freegards


23 posted on 10/14/2010 4:23:12 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: whitedog57
"I agree with the physics part. But I used to catch and would see what appears to be motion. The professor claims it is normal versus peripheral vision causing the problem. Maybe it makes it worse, but a catcher still observes a “rising fastball.”"

The real question is, "Does a knuckleball (no rotation) 'break'?"

yitbos

24 posted on 10/14/2010 4:25:04 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bunkerhill7
The top pic is of the little girl who pitched a no-hitter last year.

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25 posted on 10/14/2010 4:27:36 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Speaking of knuckleballs, check out that grip that kid has!! Awesome.

Freegards


26 posted on 10/14/2010 4:29:51 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: rickb308

[“so I stepped out of the box, the next thing I see is the ball in the catcher’s mitt. Called strike three.”

You and a bunch of us too. LOL]

I was standing at bat for my younger pitcher brother was in highschool. Watched a screwball right into my jaw! Ouch. Those things curve too.


27 posted on 10/14/2010 4:35:27 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: ETL

2 girls?


28 posted on 10/14/2010 4:37:48 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: bunkerhill7

“Is Ground Effect the reason a Knuckleball ?floats??”

I was a big “junk” ball pitcher and ended up ruining my arm. That said, the knuckle ball is perception because its 20 mphs slower and has no spin. I could make a fastball rise by rolling the ball off my fingers in a back spin. And yes my curve was aimed at the batters head with a down left curve that would end up a strike.


29 posted on 10/14/2010 4:39:23 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: bunkerhill7
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30 posted on 10/14/2010 4:40:05 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: bunkerhill7
2 girls?

Not sure. One throws like a girl. The other doesn't.

31 posted on 10/14/2010 4:43:30 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RDasher

All my golf balls go straight.
Straight into the water, straight into the woods, straight out of bounds...


32 posted on 10/14/2010 4:43:54 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: irishtenor

The article apparently isn’t saying baseballs *don’t* curve, only that a pitcher can’t make it do so. I think they’re full of it.

“Curveballs curve and fastballs go really fast, but new research suggests that no pitcher can make a curveball “break” or a fastball “rise.”...”


33 posted on 10/14/2010 4:48:28 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: bunkerhill7
or a fastball “rise.”

They obviously never played fastpitch softball......The REAL good guys throw inside curves, outside curves, risers, drop balls and really fast fastballs...........

34 posted on 10/14/2010 4:51:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: r9etb

Depends on the angle of release. The 6to 9 curve goes straight down. Not to mention the movement of a split finger fastball going down. This has been studied to death by scientists, but the fact remains that the ball does move. Some pitchers make it move differently than others


35 posted on 10/14/2010 4:51:57 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: ETL

You don’t understand. This new progressive-ism driven research has found that the earth jerks around, that the ball doesn’t actually follow a curved trajectory. It’s the same sort of science the AGW authorities use.


36 posted on 10/14/2010 4:52:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: ETL

I agree. I pitched as a teen, and I could make the ball do amazing things. It DID curve, it DID break. and I as the pitcher made it do it.


37 posted on 10/14/2010 4:52:56 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: bunkerhill7

Roy Halladay can do it - just ask the Reds...


38 posted on 10/14/2010 4:55:50 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: bunkerhill7

I looked through the various posts but saw nothing on a related matter, i.e., sliders. It is my amateur knowledge that a slider is a fastball that breaks (usually at the knees) just before reaching the plate. No? Otherwise, what the hell is it?


39 posted on 10/14/2010 4:56:12 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: MHGinTN
This new progressive-ism driven research has found that the earth jerks around, that the ball doesn’t actually follow a curved trajectory.

Yes, the ball is traveling in a straight line through Einsteinian curved space-time. Or something like that. :)

40 posted on 10/14/2010 5:02:52 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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