Posted on 10/13/2010 4:39:06 PM PDT by PROCON
Ron Brownstein and Bill McKibben both have pieces up lamenting the ascendancy of climate change skepticism in the Republican Party. While McKibben ponders the intellectual roots of this phenomenon (a subject I touched on, as he notes, in a column earlier this year), Brownstein points out that the G.O.P. is an outlier among the developed world’s right-of-center parties:
(Excerpt) Read more at douthat.blogs.nytimes.com ...
I have been a Freeper and elected Republican for almost a decade. I released a book this year that is currently ranked #1 (by customer review) on Amazon on the issue of Climate Change—and #3 on renewable energy. It is called Climate of Uncertainty—and the premise is not that global warming is false, but rather that some level of skepticism must be embraced. It bothers me that conservatives are set forth as extremists; when often times they acknowledge some level of real climate risk but are concerned that the issue is being hijacked to create bigger, more centralized government.
I hate to tell them but they’re losing liberals on this issue as well.
because it’s nothing but a lie pushed by the left to further their agenda, that’s why.
/johnny
In fact, I believe, and the data shows, that regional climates of the earth are constantly shifting, that these shifts can be extreme, and that the course of human history has been substantially affected by them.
The Sahara used to be rich farmland. The Anasazi abandoned their pueblos because of drought. The Celts used to live in China, and fled West for reasons probably related to the global warming that ended the Ice Age. The same warming drowned Sundaland and dispersed its peoples over a vast area. The Northern latitudes are periodically covered by ice sheets two miles deep.
All of these facts predict future changes, even future extreme ones.
None of them have anything to do with "carbon", or energy production, or the organization of modern industrial economies.
Are people REALLY stupid enough to believe that they do?
Clear something up for me.
Do you mean natural global warming or anthropogenic global warming?
Why Don’t Republicans Believe in Climate Change?
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Stupid Question. Why we believe. Yes we do.
For instance - in a few months - the climate will get a lot colder.
Yes it will.
It’s called winter.
In any case tha data will out, regardless of what scientifically illiterate jerkoffs like fiction writer McKibben and liberal "news"hack Brownstein would wish for.
Global Temperature Hysteresis?
Inverse Temperature Coefficient?
Something really scientific sounding, but stupid.
In any case, I am indeed gratified and honored that you responded to my post, keep up the good work and thanks!
When you produce proof and facts instead of feelings and “consensus” you might get an audience
My view is that natural climate fluctuation is a fact, and that there are reasons to be concerned about anthropogenic impacts of massive GHG emissions. Our understanding of the interactive roles of volcanos, aerosol pollutants, feedback loops, GHGs, El Nino, and solar variance is still in its early adolescence. Jacques Chirac and others have conceded that the concept of AGW is being used as a vehicle to create global governance. I do have concerns about AGW, but am also very concerned that its certainty is exagerated, healthy skepticism is marginalized, and AGW is used to achieve big government objectives.
AGW is a selfish and narcissistic stance. To think humans have any effect on weather is ridiculous. Sure, we litter and pollute but we don’t control the sun, temperature, or the tides for that matter. Its ego.. And economic.
If a liberal is pushing it I know it’s BS!
Global warming ping from an ace.
The word for these people are Warmers. Warmers are insane though they may function somewhat normally in society.
Global Warming train is derailed. They just lost another scientist last week at Penn State.
The better question NYT hack:
Why don’t the Libs believe in logic and truth.
I do have concerns about AGW
What specific concerns?
Do you feel that AGW can, in any way, lead to global climate disruption and negatively affect our climate, ie. more severe, non-typical weather per region?
No one denies climate change. The climate changes yearly and in long waves in one direction or the opposite. What intelligent people deny is the inability of mankind to cause/arrest or affect that change.
Furthermore the fact that the climate has indeed changed over the last four billion years or so, including CO2 levels magnitudes above present (like 1200 ppm), and coeval prolific vertebrate development, means all the more that intelligent people are reasonably quite skeptical of anthropogenic disaster.
Mr Douthat, I do believe, kind of like the New York Times, you are the weak bigoted mind here. Journalism level education I suppose.
Johnny Suntrade
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