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What is the difference? (Koran burning question)

Posted on 09/08/2010 1:32:47 PM PDT by djf

Now I've seen numerous threads and statements saying that we shouldn't burn the Koran.

And while a few of them have mentioned respect for another religion and that kind of thing, ALL OF THEM have focused on the same hypothetical: If you burn it, they will kill us. (Or somebody).

So my question is exactly what is the difference between what is now being talked about, and say for instance a Muslim father goes to his daughter and tells her "If you hold that boys hand we will have an honor killing and hang you from a tree."

I recall back to the days when people were burning the American flag, and there was a strong movement to ban it. Don't get me wrong here. But my feelings about this subject are that I would NEVER burn an American flag (with the exception that burning a flag is considered to be the proper disposal of a torn one) EXCEPT about the time the government commands me that I can't do it, I would say "Fire up the grill!!"

Sorry about the vanity, but I am seriously worried that this is not just a little bit of incremental sliding PC bullcrap, we are seeing some kind of fundamental change here.

What's to stop any group anywheres in the world from making demands and having some unspoken but implied threat against Americans, and expecting we will bow down again?


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To: goseminoles
“Let’s be the great people we are and not play down to their level.”

The direct threats from the New Black Panther trash, and the other threats from miscellaneous, misbegotten Muslims must be dealt with. In America, we do not submit to intimidation.

Islam means “submission”. I don't do submission. Do you?

41 posted on 09/08/2010 3:05:06 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Dianer0839

“islam is a cancer that we can not allow to gain power under sharia law.”

Exactly!

Islam is a cancer. Radiation is the answer.


42 posted on 09/08/2010 3:06:50 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: djf

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:
“We invaded you last night - we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:

“We never pay any one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost,
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”


43 posted on 09/08/2010 3:17:08 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks Arthur Wildfire! March.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2584978/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2585519/posts


44 posted on 09/08/2010 3:38:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks Arthur Wildfire! March.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2584978/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2585519/posts


45 posted on 09/08/2010 3:39:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: GladesGuru

” The direct threats from the New Black Panther trash, and the other threats from miscellaneous, misbegotten Muslims must be dealt with. In America, we do not submit to intimidation. Islam means ?submission?. I don’t do submission. Do you?”

I don’t throw common sense out of the window. If we are reasonable people, we need to use reason. Acting like a 3 year old isn’t the answer.


46 posted on 09/08/2010 4:45:07 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: buck61; American Constitutionalist
These were our people

How were they stolen and kept prisoner for years?
Under what president, under what party, under what political bent?
When were they freed?
Under what president, under what party, under what political bent?

never forget

47 posted on 09/08/2010 5:06:56 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: djf

I think it’s time we get the fight started before we get another 25 million more Muslims inside our borders.


48 posted on 09/08/2010 5:14:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: goseminoles

Your answer was not responsive to my question. Do you think we should submit to any Muslim demands to change anything American?

A simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ will suffice, though if ‘yes’, examples would be interesting.


49 posted on 09/08/2010 7:02:32 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Sorry for the late response, and my answer is a big hell no.


50 posted on 09/09/2010 3:46:34 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: American Constitutionalist

Got me there. =]


51 posted on 09/09/2010 4:09:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Restoring Honor 8-28 Gathering 300,000? Or 1 million?)
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To: BenLurkin
You should have seen the photo of Chicago Punk Thug Boy poking his finger into Ben's chest.
52 posted on 09/09/2010 3:57:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: djf; Impy

“Robots!! That’s all we would be! Little scared Islamic robots!!”

Speaking of robots ...

Scientists teach robots how to trick humans...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1310788/The-real-2001-Scientists-teach-robots-trick-humans.html


53 posted on 09/12/2010 12:13:31 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Conservative scandals? Boring. DNC scandals? Exciting. We are sick of being excited.)
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To: djf; TigersEye

Oh yeah. It’s called political correctness. An old concept, really. It’s politically incorrect to offend muslims.

I understand your deep frustration. Fear not, my FRiend. Not everyone is politically correct, although some are:

Michael Moore: Build mosque inside Ground Zero site
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=202389
‘McDonald’s has killed far more people than the terrorists’

U.S. citizens haven’t changed all that much:

Six Christians rip pages from Koran in White House stunt (No bias in this title!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2587637/posts

MAN IGNITES KORAN NEAR GROUND ZERO... [via Drudge — world knows]
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/09/11/2010-09-11_man_ignites_koran_near_ground_zero_apparently_prompted_by_florida_pastor_terry_j.html

VIDEO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRcUdruhgyw&skipcontrinter=1

Nashville Men Burn Koran [Photo might be at Drudge site]
http://www.wsmv.com/news/24972042/detail.html


54 posted on 09/12/2010 12:18:24 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Conservative scandals? Boring. DNC scandals? Exciting. We are sick of being excited.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; fieldmarshaldj; djf; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy
Robots!! That’s all we would be! Little scared Islamic robots!!”

I wonder about the origin of the Borg on Star Trek.

55 posted on 09/13/2010 9:47:11 AM PDT by Impy (DROP. OUT. MARK. KIRK.)
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To: Impy

Nice observation!


56 posted on 09/13/2010 9:56:20 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Vote McCarthy (MA-6)/Bielat (MA-4). MA-4 is Bwaney's district.)
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