Judge Weighs Request For Obama School Records (Ltc Lakin hearing today)

AP/WJZ 13 ^ | 9-2-10

[bgill]

Judge in Lakin case denies subpoena for President's birth certificate as it may cause embarrassment to Congress w/sole authority to impeach.

#&^(%&#^@$(*(&$!#$!#@#$^&#$!!!!!

[Jean S]

Are you aware that articles linked to http://rawstory.com/ are blocked at FR? And for good reason, check out the website.

[Pilsner]

The Constitution has the final say, and that is what ALL members of the military take an oath to Protect and Defend.

Yeah? Steak dinner, at Mortons, to you, or the first Birther who posts the text of the Article in the United States Constitution that gives the Army the final say in determining who the President of the United States is.

[Lurking Libertarian]

He can sue Soebarkah for Fraud and Damages in a civil court.

No he can't; no civilian court has jurisdiction to collaterally attack a decision of a court martial.

If Kalid Sheik Mohammed can get a trial in civilian court ... why not Mr. Lakin?Mohammed is scheduled to have a criminal trial in a civilian court. If he is convicted in that case, he will not be able to bring a civil suit "for fraud and damages."

[Smokeyblue]

Ping

Judge to Lakin: Find another defense

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=198465

Lind, who took 40 minutes to read her decision to the courtroom, disagreed.

She said opening up such evidence could be an “embarrassment” to the president and anyway, it should be Congress that would call for impeachment of a sitting president.

[STARWISE]

No, Jean S .. I wasn’t aware of that.
Shall you or I advise the Mod to remove that
link in post #166? Please advise direction,
should you happen know. Thanks.

[Munz]

>Do you by any chance happen to know if any of the politicians who helped get him into the Oval Office can also be prosecuted, and if so.... what type of sentencing would they possibly be subject to?<

The only one would be nazi pelosi who certified his vetting. She COULD be charged with submitting a false statement. But again she would have multiple defenses. Conviction highly unlikely

[edge919]

This is a stupid challenge. Power is inherent to the people via the Constitution, as it is a compact of “We the People.” Nothing limits that power from existing within persons in the Army. After all, it is the People after all who provide for the common defence, also per the Constitution.

[Natural Born 54]

This is so ridiculous I’m thinking the judge is sending a message. Anyone else think so?

[centurion316]

The test: would this order to LTC Lakin to deploy to the Middle East exist if it did not originally come from Obama or his Secretary of Defense? Actually yes. Obama is not relevant to this case. I make that statement in light of how the judge ruled today. When you find a judge who agrees with your opinion, we can have a discussion.

[Pilsner]

When I said the people who work in government will be the ones who would ultimately remove Obama from office also included the people who serve to protect and enforce the laws of this nation as in law enforcement and the prosecutors

I should have known I was wrong when I thought something you posted made sense : )

So, having apparently dispaired of litigating BO out of office, you now plan to have the Chief Executive deposed by the Exeutive Branch. Interesting. Care to share your thoughts on the mechanics of how that will done?

[Herbster]

“Yeah? Steak dinner, at Mortons, to you, or the first Birther who posts the text of the Article in the United States Constitution that gives the Army the final say in determining who the President of the United States is.”
‘’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
They don’t, the Constitution does! That is what is at stake here.

[Munz]

>>So any attempt to remove him from office will be ugly!<<

>The uglier the better. Let’s get ‘er done.<

As much as I would like to see him leave / be removed it wont happen by this congress or even the next. The reason is this. With poll numbers the way that they are being so low in favor of both parties, they would be cutting their own throats admitting that they deceived the public and created this problem to begin with. Their poll numbers would be around zero. No confidence in congress would remain at all.
Democrats could not place blame on anyone and republicans would have to show that they were complicate.

What will come of this is that Obama will never run again. he will probably remove himself from office before the end of his term by 6 months or so would be my best guess.

But for anyone in congress to admit that they allowed this to happen would be about the same as slitting their own throats and take everyone down with them in the process. I can’t see it happening in this world can you?

[Red Steel]

Your premises on the other hand, run the gamut from uninformed to delusional.

Delusional and uniformed? That would be you. Here is an example how correct I am:

First the war deployment orders come from Obama. You'll also notice that the Secretary of Defense takes that order from Obama (echoes it) by signing the war deployment orders as it says in the article. This same order goes all the way down the chain-of-command to deploy to the E-1 Army private that originally came from Obama.

[Herbster]

Lakin went through the proper channels, and still is to this day.

I had no idea they threatened to tazer him on his way to the nut floor at Walter Reed.

God bless you Soldier!

[little jeremiah]

When this gets to SCOTUS, if they agree to hear it (if they don’t, that’s a whole ‘nother stinking pile of expletive), would there be a mechanism to get Kagin and Sotomayor to recuse themselves?

Anyone know?

[PA-RIVER]

But a Citizen can sue a president for Fraud. We saw Paula Jones sue a president for sexual harrasment.

Fraud is crime. Lakin will have damages.

[PA-RIVER]

Kagin and Sotomayor would be required to recuse by their own ethical standard. So they would not recuse themselves, they are communists without ethical standards.

[hennie pennie]

Say, here's a link to the mobile version of Twitter, it's the results for a search of the word, 'Lakin.'

http://mobile.twitter.com/searches?q=lakin

Sometimes it reminds me of playing the game "Telephone" as a child, I notice that someone is now tweeting that the judge dismissed the case because it might embarress OBAMA.

lol!! :-)

[Red Steel]

Kagin and Sotomayor would be required to recuse by their own ethical standard. So they would not recuse themselves, they are communists without ethical standards.

Yup.