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Judge Weighs Request For Obama School Records (Ltc Lakin hearing today)
AP/WJZ 13 ^ | 9-2-10

Posted on 09/02/2010 11:10:21 AM PDT by STARWISE

Edited on 09/02/2010 11:12:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]


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KEYWORDS: birfers; birthers; certifigate; courmartial; judge; lakin; ltclakin; ltgenmcinerney; mcinerney; military; militaryjudge; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin; terrylakin; thomasmcinerney; usurper
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To: rxsid

A President can be impeached. A usurper can not, because he never was a President.

EXACTLY!


101 posted on 09/02/2010 12:51:06 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: conservativegramma

and this is definitely a problem. maybe they need to recuse themselves.


102 posted on 09/02/2010 12:52:08 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Mr Rogers

As much as I hate to say it, unless an order is directly against the Constitution, one has to follow it. Obama relies heavily on the input of advisers and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

If Obama says “Do it,” and someone says “Yes sir,” then the order they pass down is legitimate, since that originating military officer is legitimate. That is where the trail begins, and where one must not question authority when the order in and of itself is reasonable and constitutional.

Whether Obama is ineligible or not, discipline must be maintained within the ranks of the military. Otherwise, you would have yahoos from here to eternity questioning every single thing they were told to do.


103 posted on 09/02/2010 12:52:58 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: conservativegramma

Maybe it’s just a dream, but, if it ever got as far as SCOTUS, there’s an obvious argument that the two juices, er uh, justices appointed by 0 would have to recuse themselves because the implication behind the case is that their appointments would be void as well. Since they have a direct, personal interest in the decision, they are ethically required to recuse.

That would leave a ratio of 5:2 in favor of the conservatives or 4:2:1 if you consider Kennedy to be a wildcard.


104 posted on 09/02/2010 12:53:16 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: hennie pennie
In my humble opinion, if this is true, this judge has given standing to Lakin.

She is the conveneing authority in the court, and she is stateing that her court can not allow the opening of Obamas records because that might cause embarrassment to Congress, not solely because Mr. Lakin is not entitled to them. If so, then Mr. Lakin has been denied a fair trial from the start. Period.

Congress's embarrassment, in part or whole, is being weighed against a mans right to evidence in his trial, with his freedom hanging in the balance??? That, in my opinion is a travesty of justice.

This is blowing my mind. How this could not go to the supreme court is the big question. How will they avoid this?

This Judge may not be doing any thing wrong. In effect, What she did do, in my opinion, is tell the world that she can not serve justice for Mr. Lakin because the Congress is her master, and it is in their realm to provide justice in this particular case.

Mr. Lakin, in my opinion, now has injury and standing for a hearing in the Supreme court the moment he is convicted or punished in anyway.

105 posted on 09/02/2010 12:54:33 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Did any of them actually read the article to find out why the judge denied the request for Obama's records? No!

Instead they focus on and run wild with an anonymous tweet that states an opinion that the judge was concerned about embarrassing Congress.

Unbelievable. They're not interested in the truth.

(But just case anyone is interested, the judge ruled that the records are irrelevant not embarrassing.)

106 posted on 09/02/2010 12:55:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: STARWISE

His action to highlight support for veterans benefits, visit to Fort Bliss, talk about Iraq, etc??
_____________________

He’s afraid they will kick his as$ out when he tries to do what he’s planning. He’s trying to get them on his side. He knows the majority of them can’t stand him. He sees that and it’s a problem. He fears them, he can’t beat them so he is trying to get them to be on his side.


107 posted on 09/02/2010 12:56:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe ("The Arabic call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." punk in chief)
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To: Smokeyblue

this is not an impeachment. this is a question if this person, usurper is even a valid office holder.


108 posted on 09/02/2010 12:56:51 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Pilsner
"He is charged with missing a movement, said movement being ordered by his direct superior. That is what his Court Martial will be about. LTC Lakin will get discovery about matters related to his refusal to obey an order, but not about whether BO is President."

Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution provides the original source of command authority to the President as Commander-in-Chief.

109 posted on 09/02/2010 12:57:38 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Red Steel

How very true. No one will accept the responsibility and no one wants to be held accountable. So what good are they? (Those in congress)


110 posted on 09/02/2010 1:00:49 PM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Red Steel

LOL! I wondered why they took so long.


111 posted on 09/02/2010 1:02:28 PM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: JewishRighter; conservativegramma
"Maybe it’s just a dream, but, if it ever got as far as SCOTUS, there’s an obvious argument that the two juices, er uh, justices appointed by 0 would have to recuse themselves because the implication behind the case is that their appointments would be void as well. Since they have a direct, personal interest in the decision, they are ethically required to recuse.

That would leave a ratio of 5:2 in favor of the conservatives or 4:2:1 if you consider Kennedy to be a wildcard.

Excellent deduction! However, would it even get heard to begin with? I've my doubts, based in history.

112 posted on 09/02/2010 1:02:56 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: little jeremiah

The judge didn’t say any of those things.


113 posted on 09/02/2010 1:04:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Pilsner
After this case is resolved, and he receives punishment after a trial where the Collective Congressional emotion of embarrassment was a deciding factor of allowing evidence of his innocence or guilt, he will have standing in a Supreme court.

I have to clarify, That is, he would have standing in a free country where law is the rule. When Sobarkah was sworn in, we may have lost that concept and tradition.

114 posted on 09/02/2010 1:05:57 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Pilsner
Memo to Freepers: Always assume a Birther is wrong about any legal matter they spout off about.

Memo to FReepers: there is no doubt that after-Birthers always spout non sequiturs and hide in the grey areas while standing on pin-heads; believe Obama is a natural born citizen despite his constant lying and the evidence to the contrary; seem to lack the understanding that the statists in government along with the Dems will lie for Obama.

We will see that their dishonest manifestations from many of these elected officials are going to get their heads handed to them this November.

115 posted on 09/02/2010 1:07:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NeverEVERKerry

who cares if they are embarassed? they were wrong to permit it.


116 posted on 09/02/2010 1:08:23 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: scott7278

Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution provides the original source of command authority to the President as Commander-in-Chief.


117 posted on 09/02/2010 1:10:57 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: azishot
LOL! I wondered why they took so long.

They needed cover as usual.

118 posted on 09/02/2010 1:14:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Godebert

Yes it does, but not every order comes from the president, nor does it have to go through him.


119 posted on 09/02/2010 1:14:16 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, we’ve been holding our breath about this request for discovery. /s

Wrong. We told you long ago that Obama’s status is irrelevant to Lakin’s orders and that discovery of Obama’s records would be denied. And it was.


120 posted on 09/02/2010 1:17:53 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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