Posted on 09/02/2010 10:05:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Father arrested for child abuse for confrontation with 5th grader
An angry dad whose son was having problems with a fifth grader at his Hollywood elementary school decided to take matters into his own hands and pulled a stun gun on the frightened 11-year-old.
The incident happened Tuesday afternoon, as classes at Oakridge Elementary at 1507 North 28th Ave. were being dismissed.
According to police, the father, 66-year-old Jose Enrique Guerrero, confronted the fifth grader as he left the school campus, pushing him against a fence and threatening him with the stun gun while holding it inches from his face.
Guerrero allegedly told the boy, "Do you want some of this?"
When officers found Guerrero near the campus, he was wearing the stun gun on his waistband. He was arrested on a felony charge of child abuse.
The 11-year-old told officers he'd been "having problems" with Guerrero's son, according to police.
Neighbors of Guerrero were shocked to learn of his actions, partly because he is a pastor at a local church. he revealed his occupation to a Broward County judge, who was shocked to hear of the father's act of vengeance. "There's clearly more to this story," the judge said.
Care to try again. . .and yes, poodles need protection from the wolves and sheepdogs are the ones to do it.
Get the distinction?
Probably not.
I guess we depart here, as you see no limit to bully behavior and I do.
Have fun being all wolfish and all.
;-)
Sheesh. Grow up.
Go after the bullies father mano y mano.
I know a man whose name for real is Michael Brady, and his mom’s name is Carol.
I know a man whose name for real is Michael Brady, and his mom’s name is Carol.
I think there is a time and a place for poodles, sheepdogs AND wolves.
We don’t have enough information on this story to make a determination as to who was who, or who needed to be what.
I’ll tell you this though, there’s only so much messing with my cubs you could do before I turn into one of Palin’s Momma Grizzlys......
Again with the sweeping generalizations. Don't you ever get tired from jumping to baseless conclusions, side-stepping arguments and ducking facts? That would be exhausting to all of us, not being “wolves” and all that.
When did I comment directly on the case at hand? My comments were directed at the subject of bully behavior and the limits thereof.
Cheers, Mr Big Bad Wolf.
Agree.
I read all the responses. I also have 3 kids, including two teenagers.
My observation is that we live in an age of no consequences, and that is why bullies get away with what they do. Kids do and say whatever they want, because there are very little, or no, consequences for actions. This, in my opinion, was partially brought on by the internet, where people can call each other names, insult, degrade and threaten without consequences. We see it every day, even here at FR.
That behavior has spilled over into the real world, especially with kids. For example, I had a 12 year old boy on my baseball team tell me to “f**k off”. Seeing what he writes on FB on a regular basis made me realize he was talking to me like he was speaking to people online.
Many parents are too weak-willed or simply unaware or uninterested to meet bad actions with consequences.
Do you even see yourself?
So your comments had nothing to do with the actual case under discussion?
Mine did.
Did you ever think that, perhaps, the 60 some year old man was the dreaded cursed reviled ‘deserving to be put down like a rabid dog’ bully for threatening an 11 year old with a stun gun?
Old man needed a weapon to intimidate and bully an 11 year old to protect his poor little 11 year old son?
Get a grip and grow up.
Never seen an older kid picking on & bullying the younger ones? Do bullies typically pick on those big enough, old enough to effectively fight back; or do they go after the small, weak, and helpless?
Is a skinny 8 or 9 year old a ‘poofter’ because he is unable to defend himself from an 11 year old jock-brained moose?
Does the 11 year old jock-brained, over developed, bully moose lead a couple of henchmen, as is typical, in his junior gang forays?
See how easy it is to cast unwarrented invective based on made up “facts”?
I agree with you except for exhausting all the other resources first. I would have stunned the kid and then had my kid stand over him so all the other kids got the message. Yes it is cheating but think of it as.... good pr.
BJJ is fun, but if you’re talking about self-defense, it’s time for Krav Maga.
Had to deal with bullies a lot as a kid. Taught me not to trust many people. Oddly, haven’t dealt with bullies as an adult, but have been told I should trust more than I do.
Don’t see Krav Maga dominating UFC. Sorry.
Now don't get me wrong. Nuff respect to Hoyce Gracie and all that. Brazilian Jujitsu is awesome stuff, but it is limited in some respects.
Then again, maybe in Krav Maga all the moves are illegal in competition so you don’t see it . . . so maybe it is the way to go. Don’t know much about it other than Israeli defense forces use it. The thing that impresses me most about BJJ is that most fights between men do end up on the ground, and it’s the only fighting style I’ve ever seen where the smaller guy can win on the ground.
“So your comments had nothing to do with the actual case under discussion?”
Yes.
Never commented on the case. Just the subject.
Have a nice day.
posted above while you were posting. If I had a boy (girls only for me) I definitely would enroll them in Brazilian Ju Jitsu.
Girls I’ll just take to the shooting range and show them a couple moves.
The good news is that Dexter starts up a new season in just 3 or more weeks. I’m addicted - and probably gonna go to hell for liking the show as much as I do.
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