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SENATE PASSES DRAFT TRAINING BILL, DEFEATING MOVES TO DELAY OPERATION (8/29/40)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/29/40 | Frank L. Kluckhohn, Charles Hurd, Percival Knauth, James MacDonald, Eugen Kovacs

Posted on 08/29/2010 5:49:49 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: catholic; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 08/29/2010 5:49:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Fighter Range and British Radar Deployment
Marcks’ Plan, August 5, 1940
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939

Plus a special guest map from Michael Korda’s, “With Wings Like Eagles,” showing the air defenses of England and Wales, August 1940.

2 posted on 08/29/2010 5:50:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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Winston S. Churchill, Their Finest Hour

3 posted on 08/29/2010 5:51:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Final Vote 58 to 31 – 2
Roosevelt Signs Bill to Call Guard – 3
Details of Voting in the Senate on Draft – 3
Senators Warmly Debate Draft And Conscription of Industry – 4
$5,531,000 Contract Let to Build Camp – 4
Tax Bill in House – 5
Archbishop Visits President at Home – 5
The International Situation – 6
The U.S. Navy’s New Dive Bomber – 7
British Submarines Sunk, Berlin Claims – 7
British Discouraging Food Gifts from U.S. – 7
Heavy Nazi Attack – 8
Berlin Night Raid Lasts for 3 Hours – 9-10
Attack on Rumania is Laid to Hungary – 10
Texts of the Day’s War Communiques – 11-12
4 posted on 08/29/2010 5:53:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Amazing!


5 posted on 08/29/2010 5:59:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1940/aug40/f29aug40.htm

Only German fighters over England

Thursday, August 29, 1940 www.onwar.com

Over Britain... There are more German fighter sweeps but no major efforts by the daytime bomber force. The losses are 17 German and nine British aircraft.


6 posted on 08/29/2010 6:00:28 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/29.htm

August 29th, 1940

UNITED KINGDOM:
RAF Bomber Command: 4 Group (Whitley). Bombing - oil plant at Wesseling - petrol store at Ludwigshaven.
51 Sqn. Seven aircraft to Wesseling. Very bad weather. One bombed primary, two bombed alternative targets.
78 Sqn. Five aircraft to Ludwigshaven. Two returned early, one bombed primary, two bombed alternative targets.

Battle of Britain:
RAF Fighter Command: Some 700 Luftwaffe fighters in provocative sweeps to which RAF do not respond. The Chief of Kesselring’s fighter organisation claims unlimited fighter superiority has been achieved.
At night there are heavy raids against Merseyside (176 sorties) and 44 sorties elsewhere.
Losses: Luftwaffe, 17; RAF, 9.

Admiral Robert L Ghormley, US Assistant CNO, meets with British military delegation in London for staff talks. (Marc Small)

U-100 sank SS Alida Gorthon, Astra II, Dalblair, Empire Moose and damaged Harismere in Convoy OA-204.

ASW trawler HMS Sarabande launched. (Dave Shirlaw)

EGYPT: Italian planes raid Suez Canal. (Jack McKillop)

FRENCH EQUATORIAL AFRICA: In Libreville, Gabon, the Free French Governor Masson receives a telegram from Free French General de Larminat informing him of the new order in French Equatorial Africa. Masson informs the local commandant and publicly declares the colony’s adhesion to Free France. The naval commander of Libreville opposes the move and informs the governor of the imminent arrival of a Vichy naval squadron from Dakar, French West Africa. Masson yields and labels the affair a misunderstanding. Several prominent Gaullists in the colonial establishment are deported to Dakar by flying boat. Vichy France dispatches Air Force General Tetu to Libreville as “Governor General of Equatorial Africa” and orders him to re-establish order throughout the colonies.

FRENCH INDOCHINA: The Vichy French government cedes the Tonkin bases to the Japanese. (Jack McKillop)

U.S.A.: Peter Goldmark of the Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) announces his invention of a color television system. (Jack McKillop)


7 posted on 08/29/2010 6:02:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.com/

Day 364 August 29, 1940

Battle of Britain Day 51. Low clouds and rain give way to sunny intervals in the afternoon. German reconnaissance flights are mostly left alone by RAF. However, Luftwaffe tries a new tactic at 3 PM and 7.15 PM, sending large groups of fighters across the English Channel with no bombers. RAF initially goes up to intercept but No. 11 Group commander Air Vice Marshal Keith Park sees the German ruse. He withdraws RAF planes to avoid being drawn into a battle of attrition between fighters. Both sides lose 9 fighters. Luftwaffe again bombs major industrial and shipping centers (Portsmouth, Tyneside, Hartlepool, Swansea, Manchester and Liverpool). Decoy fires are lit in the countryside (’Starfish’ sites), fooling German bombers into dropping their bombs away from the cities (as shown by German air photos).

In 4 hours, U-100 hits 5 steamers in Convoy OA-204, 150 miles Northwest of Ireland. At 00.23, U-100 damages British SS Hartismere and sinks British SS Dalblair (4 killed, 19 crew and 1 gunner picked up by Swedish SS Alida Gorthon, 17 crew picked up by corvette HMS Clematis and landed at Londonderry, Ireland). At 1.40 AM, British SS Astra II is sunk (4 crew and 1 gunner lost, 20 crew picked up by the British minesweeper HMS Gleaner). At 3.36 AM, Swedish SS Alida Gorthon is sunk (11 crew and all 20 survivors from Dalblair killed, 13 survivors). At 4.27 AM, British SS Empire Moose is sunk (all 36 crew are rescued).


8 posted on 08/29/2010 6:06:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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From 4. "Senators warmly (?) dedate draft and conscription of industry". Senator Downey warns:

"If we want a dictatorship, if we are going to pass into a socialistic era, let us face it frankly and go in from the front door, not from the back door. Let us know what we are going to do".

Democrats = National Socialists. Then as now.

9 posted on 08/29/2010 6:41:18 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Next time please summarize. If I want the documents I will ask you. Thank you.


10 posted on 08/29/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - Arrogant, blaming, incompetent, anti-American, racist, and Marxist....Is that enough?)
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Next time please summarize. If I want the documents I will ask you. Thank you.

Don't follow you. Please explain.

11 posted on 08/29/2010 6:49:30 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Germans hover over capital for 7 hours in dailight

What? Where was the RAF?

12 posted on 08/29/2010 6:59:43 AM PDT by DManA
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Where was the RAF?

Out near the end of their rope.

13 posted on 08/29/2010 8:34:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Battle of Britain Campaign Diary

Date: 29th August 1940


14 posted on 08/29/2010 9:50:51 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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Notice that arch-isolationist Senator Wheeler (D-MT) voted against this draft bill, but was in favor of letting the government take over industry.

Can you imagine how an amendment to a bill like that would go over today.

15 posted on 08/29/2010 10:17:45 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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"Details of Voting in the Senate on Draft – 3"

Again notice: as many Republicans as Democrats on both sides of the issues.

Party line, and party discipline were obviously not then what we've come to expect today.

16 posted on 09/05/2010 1:29:48 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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Having trouble keeping up with the class lately? :)

I’ve noticed that there isn’t the degree of polarization back then that you see today. In fact, I really have noticed the real split on political lines as a progressively worsening issue since the Clinton years. Even during the Reagan administration it was never as bad as has gotten over the last 20 years at least in my own personal observation.

Notice that I make mention on Senator Wheeler of Montana often. I really keep particularly close watch on him because of what he will do down the road. This Democrat was probably FDR’s most dangerous opponent. An fanatical isolationist, Wheeler despised FDR and was willing to go to great lengths to destroy the man. He may have succeeded too if other events had not overshadowed his efforts. There are two camps right now, but they consist of those who are in favor of getting involved in this broadening war to varying degrees and those who are adamant that the U.S. not get involved. These two camps don’t associate with any specific party though (well, the American Communists right now are officially isolationist but that may change).


17 posted on 09/05/2010 7:35:28 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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"Having trouble keeping up with the class lately? :)"

A bit more than usual. Today is a good time to catch up. ;-)

Montana's Democrat Senator Burton Wheeler is described as an "anti-draft, antiwar, anti-big business defender of civil liberties.".
Possibly the Russ Feingold or Bernie Sanders of his day.

Even today there are supporters and opponents in both parties of the President's policies in, say, Afghanistan and Iraq.

What was unusual was the Democrats' partisan opposition to those same policies under President Bush.

Montana Senator Burton Wheeler, from 1923 to 1947.

18 posted on 09/05/2010 10:34:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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