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Caption: The decline of the cave bear began 50,000 years ago due to human expansion.

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1 posted on 08/24/2010 6:46:16 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Ball bearing ping.


2 posted on 08/24/2010 6:46:49 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Obviously ... Bush’s fault.


3 posted on 08/24/2010 6:47:20 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: decimon

4 posted on 08/24/2010 6:49:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: decimon
...was caused more by human expansion than by climate change.

What the...! They had "climate change" 50,000 years ago?

sarc/

5 posted on 08/24/2010 6:50:39 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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To: decimon

I thought Daryl Hannah and her clan were responsible.

6 posted on 08/24/2010 6:50:54 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: decimon

Largely a herbivore? In all my reading they seemed to have been omnivores with an occsional human for antipasto.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 6:51:16 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: decimon
Let's see if I understand this --

They studied some fossils to learn about genetic diversity. From these genetic studies, they have decided that:
1) Human expansion diminished the bear population
2) Competition over cave habitat was a critical factor.

Genes can tell us this?

You can call it science if you want, but I call it supposition.

8 posted on 08/24/2010 6:51:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: decimon

since they are clocking the extinction as to some 18-24k yrs ago I’m going out on a limb and saying the Flood took care of these bears while the human population was down to a mere handful of people.


9 posted on 08/24/2010 6:53:21 AM PDT by eak3
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To: decimon

There weren’t enough humans around to affect their population. Probably a change in fauna due to climate change.


10 posted on 08/24/2010 6:57:43 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: decimon

Amazing that we can assess mDNA from these specimens.

Their conclusion is not surprising. Climate change finished off many species that humans had started in decline, IMO.


12 posted on 08/24/2010 7:18:09 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: decimon
cat chasing bear Pictures, Images and Photos

It was the domestication of the house cat.

16 posted on 08/24/2010 7:43:52 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


19 posted on 08/24/2010 5:21:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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thanks decimon.
 
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20 posted on 08/24/2010 5:22:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: decimon

Southern tier - forested hilly land — I had a close encounter with a black bear - about 300 pounder a few days ago — the moment I saw him and he caught a whiff of us—he thankfully ran the other way. (chuckle)

He was about 50 feet away...down a hill.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 7:13:01 PM PDT by eleni121 (Thank you J-LO for canceling your Turk gig - decent human beings don't sing for rapist Muslim Turks)
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To: decimon

But... but... we all know that the earliest people were gentle vegetarians, living in harmony with all animals and plants. That’s what the Liberals say about our paleolithic ancestors and earliest Americans. It is we evil modern (white) humans that have destroyed the planet! I’m so confused!


29 posted on 08/24/2010 7:45:51 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

“Decline of the caves, extinction of the bears.”
The present day brown bear did not suffer the same fate and has survived until today for one simple reason – brown bears did not depend so heavily on the cave habitat, which was becoming degraded, and this is why they did not follow the same pattern as the cave bears.

I’m not sure how caves ‘decline’ but the implication is that there were fewer caves.

So does the argument go that we ran them out of their caves or they ran out of habitable caves because of changes in the ecosystem?

Perhaps we were filling up the entrances with rocks so they couldn’t get in? Or quietly killing them in their sleep while they were in hibernation.?

Them was some badass red-haired neanderthals.


53 posted on 08/25/2010 4:03:02 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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