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ORT (FReeper survival thread)

Posted on 08/20/2010 11:28:27 AM PDT by djf

As part of ongoing efforts of some FReepers to help people prepare, I figured this is good info.

Let's start with a simple question:

What is the biggest cause of infant mortality worldwide?

A) Accidents B) Malaria C) Aids D) None of the above

The answer is D. None of the above.

The worldwide number one cause of death in infants is diarrhea. This causes dehydration and can lead to convulsions, kidney failure, blindness, and coma.

Diarrhea is also a very significant problem in adults, especially in third world countries where access to potable, clean water supplies is limited or nonexistent.

The culprit? A disease, a bacteria, that has probably over the history of man killed way, way more than all who have ever died in wars or famines. Vibrio cholerae, or cholera

Do not FOR A SECOND think that it can't or won't happen in the US. A one week general power outage no matter what the cause, and you would start to see these things.

Now there are effective antibiotic treatments for cholera, it responds very well to tetracycline, for example. But there is a cheaper and more accessible method that has come into use over the last few decades that has saved literally probably 100 million lives. It is ORT, or Oral Rehydration Therapy.

Thing is if you keep the body from getting dehydrated, your own immune system and bowels will be able to overcome the cholera infection. Oral rehydration therapy effectively allows/helps you to live long enough to get rid of the bug!

And it's easy to make! But to be effective, it MUST be made at the proper ratio. Anything else, missing ingredients or improper ratios will just go through you like, well, crap through a goose! And you won't get better, you might even get worse.

You need:

1 Litre (abt 5 cups) of clean, sterile water. If you have any doubts about the water, simply boil it and let it cool before using.

1 level teaspoon of salt.

8 level teaspoons of sugar

Mix all ingredients and make sure it's all dissolved.

From the articles I've been reading, it seems that the best approach is to try to administer about 1 cup per hour for as long as it takes to get some improvements. Be ready to be persistent the first few times because vomiting is one of the things that go along with cholera/dehydration.

I am not sure, but some of the national drugstore/retail outfits may have pre-packaged ORT you can buy.

So that's about it! Any FReepers who have additional info about ORT mixing/using/availability, please post away!


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bjornlomborg; chachacha; diarrhea; ort; preppers; prepping; survival
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To: SunkenCiv

Bump.


41 posted on 08/21/2010 10:13:45 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: djf; ansel12; Quix

Right. Potassium [artificial salt] is an outstanding substitute. I have no idea what it’s shelf life is, but I bet it’s a long, long one. And like people said, people need — absolutely need — potassium. If anyone wants salt, it should be sea salt only. Mined salt is loaded with toxins not meant for regular consumption. Moderate amounts of sea salt might even LOWER blood pressure.

I’m a little skeptical of a food shortage in the US myself, but it doesn’t hurt to prepare — that’s for certain.


42 posted on 08/22/2010 10:17:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

THANKS THANKS.

I remain convinced that the prophecies about aborted babies being eaten . . . and dying relatives helped to die a little sooner . . . for food . . . will become true.

The Bible means what it says when it says that this era of the world will be worse than ever was AND worse than ever will be again.


43 posted on 08/22/2010 11:05:06 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Not necessarily a problem with food shortage - this is primarily a problem of one type: clean, fresh water

You can have all kinds of food and still get cholera! Plus I think there’s about another half dozen relatively common bugs that can dry you up like a raisin toot sweet! IIRC, amoebic dysentery is another baddie.

E. Coli is the general culprit for Montezumas revenge, but it is a pretty benign form. But the kind that kills folks, I think we are back again to talking about diarrhea, high temps and fever like conditions, possible blood in the stool.

Nasty chit!! So it pays to have a few tricks up your sleave!


44 posted on 08/22/2010 11:41:40 AM PDT by djf (They ain't "immigrants". They're "CRIMMIGRANTS"!!!!)
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To: Quix

“aborted babies being eaten”

Already in China, N Korea, and Thailand. They are completely dehumanized there.


45 posted on 08/22/2010 12:27:18 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Quix

What I personally mean is that yes, we will see a rough drop in January, but I don’t think it will result in food shortages next year. Maybe I’m just optimistic or calictrant? I don’t know, FRiend. We would immediately halt biofood production and be less squeamish about dumping risking food. Even if Obama doesn’t cooperate, there would be a black market. There are a lot of ways we could ride out a market crash, especially since people are stockpiling these days.


46 posted on 08/22/2010 12:30:44 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Quix

bio???food??? FUEL production


47 posted on 08/22/2010 12:31:20 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: djf

Amen to that. Loss of power could result in people drinking risky water without even boiling it.


48 posted on 08/22/2010 12:34:08 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aragorn; ...

Sorry. Meant to ping folks to your important thread and great info.


IF

the EMP

business of totally to near totally zapping our transportation and grid occurs . . . desperate food shortages could occur within days.

All I know is plenty of convincing experts contend it’s not only likely but going to happen. Relatively very few, imho, disagree.

It’s only when.

Some claim one well placed well designed weapon could do it over the central USA. Others contend it would take several. Others say there are satellite weapons that could do it plenty well.

Then there’s the convincing story of military type training using ‘telepathy’ I think it’s demonic or fallen angel transmit/receive agents but anyway—that the military has been seeking out and training specially sensitive folks via a particular DNA feature to handle military communications when 100% of all electricity based communications are totally zapped.

Certainly folks who Love Jesus are secure in Him and His provision whether martyred, raptured, shielded, protected in safe-havens or whatever. Though I wonder what disciplines He may exact for folks who’ve been warned to prepare and haven’t.


49 posted on 08/22/2010 12:40:40 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Not sure what you’re asking.


50 posted on 08/22/2010 12:41:40 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thailand?

I’m a bit skeptical about that one.

Where?

Ref?

NK no doubt.

Parts of China I could believe.


51 posted on 08/22/2010 12:42:36 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

“Though I wonder what disciplines He may exact for folks who’ve been warned to prepare and haven’t.”

If you are correct, then everything we type is lost and forgotten. If you are incorrect, then every heckler who mocks you looks like a genius in comparison.

I don’t mean to mock or heckle because I don’t want to be guilty of encouraging people not to prepare. At the same time, I’m trying to keep things in perspective.


52 posted on 08/22/2010 12:45:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Quix

Sorry, I probably confused you by this:

“bio???food??? FUEL production.”

I was just correcting myself and too hasty about it. God bless you, FRiend and FRegards ....


53 posted on 08/22/2010 12:46:53 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: djf; Quix
Remember-to-add-electrolytes-to-my-supply-of-gin-and-tonic ping!

Thanks for the ping Quix!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

54 posted on 08/22/2010 12:49:52 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I don’t think anything is lost or forgotten until after judgment.

I believe that everything we do, say AND THINK is recorded . . . and that

the judgment, in part, involves our

RELIVING in fast forward all our inputs/stimuli to others including our associated thoughts, feelings and actions

AND RELIVING AS THOUGH WE WERE THEM—ALL THEIR THOUGHTS FEELINGS AND ACTIONS IN RESPONSE TO OURS

TALK ABOUT AN INTENSIVE LEARNING EXPERIENCE!

Which seems to be the major objective for those headed Heaven-ward.

Otherwise, I’m not sure I understand why you say all we type would be lost. Words have impact on lives. That matters, imho.


55 posted on 08/22/2010 12:50:56 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: The Comedian

INDEED.

Found the HD’s. Recovered the missing course guide section.

PRAISE GOD.

Saved a lot of time.

Now to revise the last 1/3rd on course requirements and get that printed and the umpteen page course guide will be done for this semester.

Probably should get some more ink, LOL.


56 posted on 08/22/2010 12:52:24 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

I suppose I’m mistaken about Thailand. I didn’t see any Thai restaurants promoting it.


57 posted on 08/22/2010 12:55:40 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Quix

“Otherwise, I’m not sure I understand why you say all we type would be lost.”

I was talking on an earthly level, Friend. [Grin.]

I’m not terribly worried about God being angry at me for trying to keep things in perspective. But I would be concerned about being at either extreme.


58 posted on 08/22/2010 12:59:32 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Want stimulus? Look to Harding, JFK, and Reagan. Tax cuts w. fiscal restraint -- works every time.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I just think it would be unlikely. So many are devout Buddhists—no meat of any kind.

I Love the Thai people.

Burma/Myanmar and border areas . . . could believe it.


59 posted on 08/22/2010 12:59:49 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


60 posted on 08/22/2010 3:16:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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