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Likely case of ESA/Mars image doctoring

Posted on 08/15/2010 5:19:21 PM PDT by wendy1946

This one requires a bit of a geek trick; nonetheless I was able to start with the ESA (European Space Agency) image which people are talking about and produce pretty much what they claim to be seeing using the Windows version of GIMP: darken substantially, raise contrast substantially, and then desaturate for hue...

A typical web description of the problem...

A totally simple-minded Youtube description of techniques required to undo and/or fix the problem.

The actual ESA image in question as the public sees it.

Relevant Section:

What I get from the lower left region of that image with GIMP:

What IS all that stuff?? I've got absolutely no idea, except that it pretty obviously isn't natural or any sort of a trick of light or shadow.

Was ESA deliberately trying to hide this stuff or was the glare of the sun sufficient without any sort of an ESA conspiracy, again no real way to know. This was with ten minutes of work on my part, Joseph Skipper's website contains several shots of the same stuff with a bit more work than that put into them, e.g.

Basically, nobody in the science communities which follow this stuff out there trust these government space agencies any more and whenever an image appears more than a bit interesting people will check it out with photoshop, the GIMP or whatever, and it isn't rare that this sort of thing turns up.


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To: wendy1946

It’s probably a product of the composite process. I doubt the Europeans would hide it if they’d discovered Martian civilization. They’d be shouting halleluia.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 6:24:03 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: wendy1946

Must be Area 52.


22 posted on 08/15/2010 6:29:15 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Brilliant

Could actually be bright sunlight just blurring the features as I mentioned.


23 posted on 08/15/2010 6:32:52 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Brilliant

What I need is a 16 bit TIF file to start with so I can open it in RAW to get greater control. Everything from the ESA is available in TIF format but I haven’t got a clue as to what photo was used or what area was zoomed and cropped.

Zooming in beyond the intended resolution would bring out the pixels like that. Contrast and brightness would really make them pop out.


24 posted on 08/15/2010 6:47:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: libertylover

Leggoland.


25 posted on 08/15/2010 6:49:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sigSEGV

Now that I look at the whole photo it does look a lot like what we see in google earth with the 3-D view. The whole photo is pixelated like that.


26 posted on 08/15/2010 6:54:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: beebuster2000
I don't know what it is either, but I know it causes global warming.
27 posted on 08/15/2010 7:03:53 PM PDT by pappyone (New to Freep, still working a tag line.)
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To: wendy1946
squirrel_face_viking

I see the effect all the time in GIMP. In a limited range of colors you boost contrast and you get digital output like that.

28 posted on 08/15/2010 7:06:54 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Nateman

You’ll notice that one section is labeled “relevant” but if you look at the whole picture its obvious that the pixelated effect is present on the whole thing. Its called misdirection like magicians use.

I’m guessing that the places with the least pixelated were photographed at a lesser angle and not distorted as much in the process of making the 30D effect.

“As the public sees it” (and apparently the folks at the ESA).

http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&keyword=hale&single=y&start=8


29 posted on 08/15/2010 7:29:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: wendy1946
JPEG is lossy. You're seeing compression artifacts.
30 posted on 08/15/2010 7:38:58 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: wendy1946

that last picture definitely looks like a frog exhaling smoke...on top of a bunch of legos, of course...


31 posted on 08/15/2010 8:03:23 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Swordmaker

fyi


32 posted on 08/15/2010 8:37:49 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

There’s a strange tombstone looking object toward the upper left corner of this picture. Definitely doesn’t look like a natural shape.

http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmgdownload.pl?url=http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/437-20090405-5122-6-3d-2-01-HephaestusFossae_H1.jpg&tipo=Image

something odd in the upper right corner too, but it’s cut off


33 posted on 08/15/2010 11:26:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: Nateman
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34 posted on 08/16/2010 7:16:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: wendy1946
I can make Obama look white...or look much blacker.

You don't think that's altering?

35 posted on 08/16/2010 7:32:19 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: cripplecreek

What’s that from?


36 posted on 08/16/2010 12:57:09 PM PDT by wendy1946
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