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Likely case of ESA/Mars image doctoring

Posted on 08/15/2010 5:19:21 PM PDT by wendy1946

This one requires a bit of a geek trick; nonetheless I was able to start with the ESA (European Space Agency) image which people are talking about and produce pretty much what they claim to be seeing using the Windows version of GIMP: darken substantially, raise contrast substantially, and then desaturate for hue...

A typical web description of the problem...

A totally simple-minded Youtube description of techniques required to undo and/or fix the problem.

The actual ESA image in question as the public sees it.

Relevant Section:

What I get from the lower left region of that image with GIMP:

What IS all that stuff?? I've got absolutely no idea, except that it pretty obviously isn't natural or any sort of a trick of light or shadow.

Was ESA deliberately trying to hide this stuff or was the glare of the sun sufficient without any sort of an ESA conspiracy, again no real way to know. This was with ten minutes of work on my part, Joseph Skipper's website contains several shots of the same stuff with a bit more work than that put into them, e.g.

Basically, nobody in the science communities which follow this stuff out there trust these government space agencies any more and whenever an image appears more than a bit interesting people will check it out with photoshop, the GIMP or whatever, and it isn't rare that this sort of thing turns up.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; UFO's; Weird Stuff
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1 posted on 08/15/2010 5:19:24 PM PDT by wendy1946
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obviously its an alien base, or maybe a casino.


2 posted on 08/15/2010 5:21:49 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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Maybe it’s a secret government base. An alternative to Gitmo?


3 posted on 08/15/2010 5:23:08 PM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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I have it on good authority that the picture is a family outting at Disney Mars!


4 posted on 08/15/2010 5:25:46 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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Altering photos to prove they’ve been altered?

LOL


5 posted on 08/15/2010 5:25:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: I Hate Obama

The site of the Obamas’ next vacation?


6 posted on 08/15/2010 5:26:39 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: wendy1946

I think it says “multipass”.


7 posted on 08/15/2010 5:28:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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Altering photos to prove they’ve been altered?

Adjusting lighting and contrast is not altering anything.

8 posted on 08/15/2010 5:30:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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"obviously its an alien base, or maybe a casino.

No here we have definitive proof of Big foot...

Or Noah's Ark...

Anyhow its one of the two or posibly something else...

now where did I put my bong...

9 posted on 08/15/2010 5:34:05 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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Don’t worry, I just opened photoshop to adjust the lighting and contrast “without altering anything”. LOL


10 posted on 08/15/2010 5:34:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: wendy1946
"Adjusting lighting and contrast is not altering anything."

Actually it is the very definition of altering something.

al·ter verb

1. to make or become different in some respect; change

11 posted on 08/15/2010 5:39:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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Something odd has been going on with the Mars photos. I am quite familiar with Photoshop, having started with version 4.0 in the early ‘90s, and I have learned that each tool leaves some artifacts when you use it, if you know what to look for. When I looked at some of the photos from the Mars Rovers, I could see some rather obvious Photoshop manipulations using the smudge tool on some small details and objects. Why they did that, I have no idea.
12 posted on 08/15/2010 5:46:04 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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Its a crappy photo to start with and it appears to be heavily pixelated which takes curves and makes them appear straight and sharp.


13 posted on 08/15/2010 5:47:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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The magic of pixelation. Notice how it never turns straight lines into curved lines?


14 posted on 08/15/2010 5:55:14 PM PDT by aruanan
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The magic of pixelation...


15 posted on 08/15/2010 5:57:23 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Adjusting lighting and contrast is not altering anything.

Anything that changes a photograph from its original appearance is an alteration of the characteristics of that photograph.
16 posted on 08/15/2010 5:58:05 PM PDT by aruanan
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The idea that ‘pixellation’ could create the effects you see when you alter the contrast in that ESA image is idiotic.


17 posted on 08/15/2010 6:06:47 PM PDT by wendy1946
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Hint: You’re seeing jpeg artifacts overlayed over a 3d generated topology. Not that you will want to believe that though.


18 posted on 08/15/2010 6:08:28 PM PDT by sigSEGV
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i dont know what it is, but i know obama supports putting a mosque next to it.


19 posted on 08/15/2010 6:14:29 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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Bookmark


20 posted on 08/15/2010 6:17:37 PM PDT by dragnet2
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