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New carbon dioxide emissions model (You'll never guess)
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology ^ | August 2, 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 08/02/2010 11:42:43 AM PDT by decimon

Meteorologists have determined exactly how much carbon dioxide humans can emit into the atmosphere while ensuring that the earth does not heat up by more than two degrees

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) calculated projected temperature changes for various scenarios in 2007 and researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg have now gone one step further: they have developed a new model that specifies the maximum volumes of carbon dioxide that humans may emit to remain below the critical threshold for climate warming of two degrees Celsius. To do this, the scientists incorporated into their calculations data relating to the carbon cycle, namely the volume of carbon dioxide absorbed and released by the oceans and forests. The aim of the international ENSEMBLES project is to simulate future changes in the global climate and carbon dioxide emissions and thereby to obtain more reliable threshold values on this basis. (Climatic Change, July 21, 2010)

The concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere caused by the combustion of fossil fuels (gas, oil) has increased by around 35 percent since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. If carbon dioxide emissions and, as a result, atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations continue to increase unchecked, a drastic increase in the global temperature can be expected before the end of this century. With the help of new models for a prescribed atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration, scientists from all over Europe have now calculated for the first time the extent to which the global carbon dioxide emissions must be reduced to halt global warming.

"What’s new about this research is that we have integrated the carbon cycle into our model to obtain the emissions data," says Erich Roeckner. According to the model, admissible carbon dioxide emissions will increase from approximately seven billion tonnes of carbon in the year 2000 to a maximum value of around ten billion tonnes in 2015. In order to achieve the long-term stabilisation of the atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration, the emissions will then have to be reduced by 56 percent by the year 2050 and approach zero towards the end of this century. Although, based on these calculations, global warming would remain under the two-degree threshold until 2100, further warming may be expected in the long term: "It will take centuries for the global climate system to stabilise," says Erich Roeckner.

The scientists used a new method with which they reconstructed historical emission pathways on the basis of already-calculated carbon dioxide concentrations. To do this, Erich Roeckner and his team adopted the methodology proposed by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) for simulations being carried out for the future Fifth IPCC Assessment Report: earth system models that incorporate the carbon cycle were used to estimate the anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions that are compatible with a prescribed concentration pathway. In this case, the emissions depend solely on the proportion of the anthropogenic carbon in the model that is absorbed by the land surface and the oceans. Repetition of the experiments using different pre-industrial starting dates enabled the scientists to distinguish between anthropogenic climate change and internal climate variability.

The model used for this study is based on a low-resolution spatial grid with a grid spacing of around 400 kilometres, which takes the atmosphere, plus the land surface, the ocean, including sea ice, and the marine and terrestrial carbon cycle into account.

The overall aim of the study is to simulate future changes in the climate and carbon dioxide emissions in a single scenario in which the carbon dioxide equivalent concentrations in the atmosphere are stabilised in the long term at 450 parts per million (ppm), so that global warming increases to a maximum of two degrees above the pre-industrial level. The data are currently being evaluated by other European climate centres. "As soon as all of the results are available, we can evaluate the spread between the models," says Erich Roeckner. "The more significant the data we have, the more accurate our forecast will be."

Related links:

[1] Website of the ENSEMBLES project

Original work:

Erich Roeckner, Marco A. Giorgetta, Traute Crueger, Monika Esch, Julia Pongratz Historical and future anthropogenic emission pathways derived from coupled climate-carbon cycle simulations Climatic Change, DOI 10.1007/s10584-010-9886-6, (2010)

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KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; junkscience

1 posted on 08/02/2010 11:42:47 AM PDT by decimon
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To: steelyourfaith

Walking the Planck ping.


2 posted on 08/02/2010 11:43:43 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
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3 posted on 08/02/2010 11:46:13 AM PDT by xuberalles (The Right Stuff: The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net ! http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: decimon

Taking “How Many Angels Can Fit On the Head of a Pin” to the next level.


4 posted on 08/02/2010 11:53:00 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: decimon

Max Planck is rolling in his grave.


5 posted on 08/02/2010 11:53:09 AM PDT by devere
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To: decimon

“I’m sorry, but to prevent catastrophic global warming (which would have a bad effect on my lifestyle), I’m afraid that 100 million of you will have to leave the earth.”


6 posted on 08/02/2010 11:54:48 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: decimon
If God didn’t want us to exhale CO2 he would have come up with some other plan...maybe N2O, hahahahaha.
7 posted on 08/02/2010 11:54:49 AM PDT by JPG (Journolist diva, Sarah Spitz? No, she swallowed the whole Mongrel agenda.)
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To: xuberalles
Every month..sure as hippies don't bathe
8 posted on 08/02/2010 11:56:05 AM PDT by mirkwood (54 degrees f this morning in Steuben, maine)
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To: decimon

Guess which continent produces the most CO2? Africa. This could be seen as racist by the diverse crowd.


9 posted on 08/02/2010 11:56:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: decimon

Let me guess: The break even point is 10% of the current population level.


10 posted on 08/02/2010 11:58:22 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The problem isn't that 1% of muslims are terrorists. The problem is 99% of terrorists are muslim)
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To: decimon
New carbon dioxide emissions model (You'll never guess)

Before reading the article, let me try:

"It's worse than we thoughtTM"

Yup. I was right.

11 posted on 08/02/2010 12:00:02 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: decimon

Easy-peasy. Remove all the muslims and all the socialists, and the question is comfortably moot.


12 posted on 08/02/2010 12:02:15 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: decimon
the emissions will then have to be reduced by 56 percent by the year 2050

I wonder if this might happen anyway even without environmentalists causing a nuisance. After all, we are finding we have lot more recoverable natural gas than we thought we had five years ago. I wouldn't argue that petroleum is running out, but it is getting more expensitve to get the stuff out. Natural gas emits only about half the carbon dioxide that petroleum does.

Nuclear power isn't cost-effective now, but that may be just an engineering problem. Incremental improvements, combined with increasing costs of mining coal as we use up the easy stuff, could make nuclear power a lot more feasible.

If we could power our car fleet on natural gas and nuclear takes over a big part of electrical generation, then emissions could go down over 56 percent in this country with very little inconvenience to the consumer.

We shall see!

13 posted on 08/02/2010 12:10:55 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: decimon

Carbon dioxide is air for plants. Why do liberals keep wanting to kill all the trees by taking away the plant’s air? I thought liberals loved trees?


14 posted on 08/02/2010 12:40:30 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: decimon; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; proud_yank; Horusra; ...
Thanx decimon !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

15 posted on 08/02/2010 2:32:33 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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16 posted on 08/03/2010 8:36:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: decimon

tree rings and whale farts

no historical carbon emissions, what are these people smoking?

Ever heard of volcanoes and forest fires?


17 posted on 08/03/2010 11:03:35 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Hardraade
"Remove all the muslims and all the socialists, and the question is comfortably moot."

Now there is a plot line for a 12 Monkeys type movie. Nothing a little genetic engineering can't solve.

18 posted on 08/04/2010 3:51:35 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: decimon
Meteorologists have determined exactly how much carbon dioxide humans can emit into the atmosphere while ensuring that the earth does not heat up by more than two degrees

WaitWaitWait.... The "climate scientists" been dissing the meteorologists, ever since it became clear that a majority of meteorologists have rejected the AGW hypothesis.

So.... we can expect an IPCC denouncement of this study any day now. Right?

19 posted on 08/06/2010 8:03:54 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: decimon
Recently, in the New York Times, as cited at ClimateDepot.com, Dr. Richard B. Alley from the IPCC claimed that doubling atmospheric CO2 would result in temperature increases of 18-20 degrees. He didn't specify C or F, so I assumed C for the following:

'The true worst case from doubled carbon dioxide is closer to 18 or 20 degrees of warming, Dr. Alley said — an addition of heat so radical that it would render the planet unrecognizable to its present-day inhabitants.'

Throughout earth history the only certain relationship between atmospheric CO2 and temperature is that, after 4 to 10 centuries of warming, the level of atmospheric CO2 increases and, after up to a thousand or more years of cooling, CO2 levels start to decrease. There have been much cooler periods than now but with many times higher CO2 levels and warmer periods with much lower CO2 (the Holocene, Roman, and Medieval optima). There are no geological precedents for CO2-induced climate change, but there are many for climate change-induced CO2 levels.

Given the logarithmic relationship of CO2 to atmospheric temperature (where the greatest effect is over the first hundred ppm, after that increasing amounts of CO2 are required to result in decreasing rises in temperature), there is no way possible to get an 18 to 20 degree increase of warming without increasing human contribution to atmospheric CO2 by an amount that would require an increase many, many times greater than all current human activity. There is no way possible to increase temperature by 18-20 degrees by doubling the amount of atmospheric CO2.

For instance, if the increase in CO2 from the cherry-picked 19th century value of 280 ppm (actually about 330 ppm) to that of the present day is responsible for less than one half degree C increase over that period of time and since the mean residence time of CO2 is about 5 years (IPCC's Susan Solomon's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding) and if all of that increase of CO2 is from human activity, then to get an increase of 18 to 20 degrees C assuming a linear not a logarithmic relationship between CO2 content and temperature, you'd have to have an increase in human CO2-emitting activity of between 36 to 40 times--meaning that, for a constant population, economic activity would have to be increased between 36 to 40 times or, for a constant level of CO2 output per person, population would have to be increased 36 to 40 times. And that's if the relationship between warming and CO2 is linear--for the logarithmic relationship, it would be many, many times that. There is no way that we're going to increase the earth's population 36 to 40 times nor increase the average yearly CO2-generating economic activity 36 to 40 times in the near or even in the distant future.
20 posted on 12/25/2010 12:13:45 PM PST by aruanan
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