WHAT WILL YOU SACRIFICE?

n/a ^ | 7/21/10 | A Navy Vet

[A Navy Vet]

What will you do when push comes to shove? Will you accept the marxist slavery or will you fight!?

[ctdonath2]

They’ll take pictures and notes, wait for you to go home, and arrest you there at their convenience.

[A Navy Vet]

While I don't agree with much of your post regarding violence, I asked the TEA Party folks last year to engage in simple civil disobedience, like chaining themselves together as worked for the anti-war protesters back in the '60's. I even offered to pay the bail/fines of 10 or more if they did such. It would be a misdemeanor. No one took me up on my offer.

I would do it myself, but I live in California and can't get out to DC anymore due to family stuff. So the whole civil disobedience is moot. They will continue to congregate and wave flags and signs and DC will continue to ignore them.

However: STATES' RIGHTS IS AN OPTION! Think 9th and 10th Amendments and State nullification of Fedgov mandates!

Does anyone really believe that obambi would have the cojones to do ANYTHING about such a State rebellion? I don't. He is a p**sy. He would be lost, while looking at his speech writers for guidance. He's Chicago punk. Like all punks, if they don't have the upper hand, they are lost.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

I will take an honor guard with me.

[Springfield Reformer]

Right. Why would anyone with half a brain risk everything for someone whose real name they don’t even know, let alone have some authentic life connection with?

BTW, this is further evidence that a pet theory of mine is correct, that a major part of the entrapment of the American people is a deliberate fostering of the illusion of isolation and futility among people like ourselves. The left is pure genius when it comes to getting the self-fulfilling prophecy to work in their favor. They create an army of imaginary bogey-men and we all run scared. Defeatism is a force amplifier for the left, and we, by choosing to believe the illusion of futility, empower their use of it.

Nevertheless, I am willing to believe we are all, even the most negative among us, actively resisting the encroachment of tyranny among those we know personally, and those networks of relationships are all interconnected. There are hundreds of thousands of us who have already and will continue to dig in our heels as the game advances. Though some here may not believe it now, perhaps because they cannot (by design) see outside their own foxhole, trust me when I say this will not end well for the left.

[esoxmagnum]

“I can see a few states breaking off and going their own way. At least I hope so.”

Obama sees himself as the Black Lincoln. Like most muslims, he probably wouldn’t mind being martyred either. I think that he wants another civil war, a race war. He would love for some states to attempt to secede. The he would declare martial law, and become president for life.

[wtc911]

I would do it myself, but I live in California and can't get out to DC anymore due to family stuff....

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IOW....we now know what you are NOT willing to sacrifice.

Nothing like a dog that stands on the porch barking.

[ctdonath2]

Yes, he would.
The Chicago Way has no qualms about using violence as a political tool.

[iceskater]

isn't your statement what all good men live for? Whether it be for family, country, or liberty? Personally, since I have no family, it's all about liberty to me.

Of course, that's what all good people (since I'm a girl, I'm changing your words to include me) strive for. Well, most normal people anyway. Prior to the last year or so, my goal was to do a good job at work, treat my family and friends well, try not to screw up too bad and not leave a mess for my family to clean up when I die.

Now, I think things are coming to a head. Our country and our liberty are teetering on the brink of oblivion. If my fighting helps us get back to where we should be, then my life will not have been in vain or for some shallow purpose. And honestly, I think it's going to take ugly, horrible fighting to take our country back. We're past doing things without some degree of violence. If I have to take up arms (Good Lord, I never thought I'd ever say such words), then so be it. I can shoot (kind of - need more practice) and my country is worth fighting for.

The question is to me, is my resolve to turn the tide stronger than the Left's desire to destroy us? Mine is. And I don't think I'm alone.

[A Navy Vet]

Reading back, I remember you. You have been a patriot from day one on this forum. I tend to think you really mean what you say.

Hope you're not a martyr when push comes...we will need you. If so, I will honor you and carry on. Still, if you survive, we need secure comms. Got some? BTW, I was f**king with the above poster. I am ready to be cannon fodder. Just hoping for a shot in the brain pan if stuff comes to that. Again, I will walk point as a dumb-ass aviation sailor.

My oath to the United Stated Constitution still stands.

[TigersEye]

BTW, this is further evidence that a pet theory of mine is correct, that a major part of the entrapment of the American people is a deliberate fostering of the illusion of isolation and futility among people like ourselves.

I agree that the left does that but I haven't bought into any of it. I have no sense of futility about it at all.

[Springfield Reformer]

Really not true, what you’re saying about blacks. I’m doing some political work in the Chicago area, right in the belly of the beast, and I can tell you a big chuck of the black community I am working with is ready to get out from under their real oppressors. Jesse & company have run their course and are not nearly as widely believed or accepted as you may have been led to believe.

The problem is, the hologram of racial hatred has left its scars, and even though a surprising number of these folks actually hold what are objectively conservative values, they can’t call them that. Many of them really think the Tea Party is racist. But if we were able to get past the manufactured illusions and compare core values, we would find far more similarity than your statement predicts. Things are happening here. Keep an eye on it. Eventually it will become a source of encouragement to everyone who hears it, that right in Obama’s backyard, literally, an ill wind blows against his precious socialism.

[B-Chan]

Secession, maybe. But it will only come when the federal government is too weak and sick to stop it. Otherwise, any attempt by a state to break away from the Union is doomed to fail.

[ProfoundMan]

That’s the closest thing to a plan as I have seen in my travels. Should it become necessary, I’d stand with you.

[B-Chan]

You are deluded if you think that no one will do anything about "it". Many are those that are giving the peaceful and Constitutional means to correct the situation one last opportunity. If the November elections are stolen, then the last vestiges of liberty are gone.

Blah blah blah, "one more chance", blah blah blah. I've heard that one before. The truth is that you are deluded if you think the American people are going to rise up in arms because the Democrats win in November, or whatever. Most people are perfectly happy with America the way it is. Anyone who tries rising up against the Feds will accomplish nothing more than providing hours of YouTube video entertainment for the average Joe. "Lokkee here, Bubba! Here's whurr they git hit with 20 mm cannon fahr frum them Army heelacopters!"

I'll bet you a hundred bucks right now that the current political order will remain intact on 1 January 2011 no matter who wins the November election. Hell, I'll bet you a hundred that nothing will happen even if they cancel the November elections.

[B-Chan]

I’m afraid you’re right. It's kind of like quitting smoking. Like most smokers, I remember saying “I’ll quit when they get to $3.00 / pack.” Then $4.00, then 5.00, etc.

The same mechanism is in play. As long as they do it gradually, most people will tolerate it.

Things really have to get VERY bad in everyday life for people to resort to revolution.

Thank you for posting this. It's nice to know that at least one other person on FR is living in the real world instead of some video game fantasyland.

[GOPJ]

We ‘fight’ by attending Tea Parties, voting, posting on FreeRepublic, talking to neighbors and friends... Republicans are the law biding... Liberals are the violent liars who seek to control freak the rest of us into submission.

[oneolcop]

www.sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com

[southernsunshine]

“Think Waylon Jennings”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGz_xSSgjY0

How in the world did we sink so far so fast?!

I think a very large segment of our population senses something is very wrong and is wondering what the “spark” will be.

I wholeheartedly support the states rights agenda, but do not see any politician willing to push it to the level it must reach to be an effective strategy. Perhaps November will change this.

I have often thought that a rally large enough to literally shut down the government will lead to America’s Tianenmen Square.

I also believe if, heaven forbid, it comes to physical conflict our military will be divided against itself. The number of socialists vs conservatives in our civilian population is likely repeated within our troops, IMO. Could be wrong, just my thoughts.

In the end, if armed conflict does occur, I believe it will actually be the socialists/marxists/communists who “light the fire”. Why do I believe this? Because when the mass of people who believe that they will soon be receiving “more” (meaning something for nothing) realize they won’t be receiving “more”, they will blow. An overwhelming majority of these people already recieve free housing, food, medical care, etc. and they still want “more”. There isn’t any “more” to get.

The government can take every single assest we (the productive members of society) have and the redistribution of our assests wouldn’t be enough to satisfy the greedy masses for more than a couple of months.

Imagine the fury of those expecting “more” when they realize no additional handouts are coming and the “elite” (government) are living as royalty.

If things ever spin so out of control that armed conflict occurs, MANY will give all for the sake of America.

[Noumenon]

Thanks for the regard, sir. I'm not looking for martyrdom, that's for sure. I'll be looking for the other guy's. That said, we know not the hour nor the day. I've done my best to maintain my skills, as I know that they will be sorely needed sooner rather than later. My job, as I see it, is to survive what's coming and do what I can to teach the first principles of liberty and to restore a sense of so much of the history we've forgotten. I want to help restore a culture of mindful liberty, duty, honor and simple human dignity. Most of all, I want people to think about the nature of the evil we face, and not mistake it for anything other than but what it is. Our enemies are monsters as I've mentioned in - this article. Nothing less. They are not nice, but simply misguided people who mean well. Underneath the smiley-face talk, their real aim is millions of us dead, and the rest of us in chains. Some of them have said as much. Their contempt for us knows no bounds.

There's no possibility of compromise or surrender to such. When the time comes, like you, I have my duty and an oath to honor. My greatest hope is that there are more of us than we know.

[A Navy Vet]

You are out of line.

You have no idea what I have sacrificed during military days, later street activism, my own resources, and even organizing the very first Free Republic event called, "The March for Justice" against the clinton debacle back in 1998.

I was also one of the founding members of VetsCoR and later the Chairman (see FR home page). Myself and JimRob and Neil E. Wright and many more did much for our Veterans in hope that they would support our Constitutional ideals. We set up displays (on my dime), at numerous events to promote VetsCoR's Constitutional principles...from Vegas to Branson, MO.

We also printed out hundreds of pocket Constitutions (on my dime) to ship to troops and give out at various local events. Also, produced a slide show called, "With Love and Affection" for the troops heading towards the Iraq war. We shipped a couple hundred to them (again, on our dime). Go to FR home page and see what that is about. They loved it.

Plus, I was a Minuteman back in 2005. I actually worked across the hwy with Jim Gilchrist before he became large. I went to Tombstone to support their efforts.

You should probably research before you give someone this kind of crap. So what have I done lately? Nothing. Tough shit, I did my duty time and again. Apology? I will accept.