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To: TigersEye; A Navy Vet

Right. Why would anyone with half a brain risk everything for someone whose real name they don’t even know, let alone have some authentic life connection with?

BTW, this is further evidence that a pet theory of mine is correct, that a major part of the entrapment of the American people is a deliberate fostering of the illusion of isolation and futility among people like ourselves. The left is pure genius when it comes to getting the self-fulfilling prophecy to work in their favor. They create an army of imaginary bogey-men and we all run scared. Defeatism is a force amplifier for the left, and we, by choosing to believe the illusion of futility, empower their use of it.

Nevertheless, I am willing to believe we are all, even the most negative among us, actively resisting the encroachment of tyranny among those we know personally, and those networks of relationships are all interconnected. There are hundreds of thousands of us who have already and will continue to dig in our heels as the game advances. Though some here may not believe it now, perhaps because they cannot (by design) see outside their own foxhole, trust me when I say this will not end well for the left.


104 posted on 07/21/2010 1:38:23 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
BTW, this is further evidence that a pet theory of mine is correct, that a major part of the entrapment of the American people is a deliberate fostering of the illusion of isolation and futility among people like ourselves.

I agree that the left does that but I haven't bought into any of it. I have no sense of futility about it at all.

110 posted on 07/21/2010 1:53:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

a pet theory of mine is correct, that a major part of the entrapment of the American people is a deliberate fostering of the illusion of isolation and futility among people like ourselves. The left is pure genius when it comes to getting the self-fulfilling prophecy to work in their favor. They create an army of imaginary bogey-men and we all run scared. Defeatism is a force amplifier for the left, and we, by choosing to believe the illusion of futility, empower their use of it.The military has guns and ammo, so do we. Now the question becomes, will the military actually fire on Americans?

I think you're right. The psychological war between the left and right is being won by the left. Here's my response to Dusty... He felt our army might shoot at Americans...

IMO, some will. They will follow the orders they are given and, if ordered to shoot, they will shoot. But, what will they shoot? Guns? You betcha.

I agree. Some will. And the others - the one's who won't will be moved to non-confronting units. But, our odds increase for success the more Obama's army sees us as Americans and not as 'the other'. In Iran - at one point - the ruling thugs had to bring in outsiders to shoot at and arrest young student protesters. Too many were known to the regular police and army - and they wouldn't shoot the kids. That's a lesson for us.

We have to create that mindset. The Tea Parties have been a wonderful psychological safeguard for us. Our side has been demonized - effectively. The radical elite left can't work their lies easily when Tea Party members are everyday Americans wearing light pastels and carrying homemade signs. Even the brain washed press has been able to see Tea Party members are their friends, neighbors, and family. It would be hard to shoot into a Tea Party.

And that's where the psychological units on our side need to focus... Elite radical liberals are working to present us as "the other". Kind of what Hitler did to the Jews before extermination camps were set up. Liberal elite groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center are behind much of this type of propaganda - they work to create the appearance conservatives are "sub-humans - the other - not worthy of civil protections... That's wrong of them. If we don't counter this, we're going to lose no matter what...

Statements of "this far and no further" must be written. If radical liberal elites start killing people on our side - Rush, Hannity, Supreme Court conservatives, FOX News people - that's a "crossed the line" act. If radical liberal elites start opening re-education or death camps - that's also a 'crossed the line' act. All our positions need to be acceptable to the vast majority of citizens. It won't work otherwise. Forewarned citizens are a safeguard. Waiting until groups are being loaded on trains won't work. Citizens will justify it just like they did in Germany.

Our fellow citizens need to be on board BEFORE something happens. Psych-teams can work out details.

Now's the time to clarify values. I have mine - but strength comes in numbers. Here's what I will NOT fight about... If there's a duly elected group - liberals - and they make laws I hate - that's their right. When we're in office, we'll make laws they hate - and expect them to follow those laws. It's a free country. Election winners get to call the shots. It's how the system works. I like that - I believe in our system of government. If we don't like what liberals are doing (legally) then we can work harder and VOTE THEM OUT. That's how a free culture - rule of law - country works it.

So let me know, where's 'your line' - what's your plan... details for the future - not history...

193 posted on 07/22/2010 12:17:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (..Liberalism is Intolerance..- - Freeper Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: iceskater
Ice - this was in response to Dusty's concern the Army might shoot at us...

Would love your comments too...

Our odds increase for success the more Obama's army sees us as Americans and not as 'the other'. In Iran - at one point - the ruling thugs had to bring in outsiders to shoot at and arrest young student protesters. Too many were known to the regular police and army - and they wouldn't shoot the kids. That's a lesson for us.

We have to create that mindset. The Tea Parties have been a wonderful psychological safeguard for us. Our side has been demonized - effectively. The radical elite left can't work their lies easily when Tea Party members are everyday Americans wearing light pastels and carrying homemade signs. Even the brain washed press has been able to see Tea Party members are their friends, neighbors, and family. It would be hard to shoot into a Tea Party.

And that's where the psychological units on our side need to focus... Elite radical liberals are working to present us as "the other". Kind of what Hitler did to the Jews before extermination camps were set up. Liberal elite groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center are behind much of this type of propaganda - they work to create the appearance conservatives are "sub-humans - the other - not worthy of civil protections... That's wrong of them. If we don't counter this, we're going to lose no matter what...

Statements of "this far and no further" must be written. If radical liberal elites start killing people on our side - Rush, Hannity, Supreme Court conservatives, FOX News people - that's a "crossed the line" act. If radical liberal elites start opening re-education or death camps - that's also a 'crossed the line' act. All our positions need to be acceptable to the vast majority of citizens. It won't work otherwise. Forewarned citizens are a safeguard. Waiting until groups are being loaded on trains won't work. Citizens will justify it just like they did in Germany.

Our fellow citizens need to be on board BEFORE something happens. Psych-teams can work out details.

Now's the time to clarify values. I have mine - but strength comes in numbers. Here's what I will NOT fight about... If there's a duly elected group - liberals - and they make laws I hate - that's their right. When we're in office, we'll make laws they hate - and expect them to follow those laws. It's a free country. Election winners get to call the shots. It's how the system works. I like that - I believe in our system of government. If we don't like what liberals are doing (legally) then we can work harder and VOTE THEM OUT. That's how a free culture - rule of law - country works it.

So let me know, where's 'your line' - what's your plan... details for the future - not history...

195 posted on 07/22/2010 12:19:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (..Liberalism is Intolerance..- - Freeper Eric in the Ozarks)
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