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Ynet special: Jabotinsky had Hitler in crosshairs
YNET NEWS.com ^ | Published: 07.15.10, 14:42 / Israel News | Shlomo Nakdimon

Posted on 07/18/2010 5:25:31 PM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: "The colonel, Richard Henry Meinertzhagen, served as an advisor at the War Office in London and knew Jabotinsky from his service in the British army in the Land of Israel after the Ottoman era in 1918.

The colonel documented his conversation with the Zionist leader in his private diary, which was published in London in 1959 as a book titled, "Middle East Diary, 1917-1956." Here is a short segment from the conversation:

Jabotinsky: I have brought a plan to bomb Hitler and the entire Nazi leadership.

Meinertzhagen: An ambitious plot.

Jabotinsky: An attainable one.

Meinertzhagen: Do elaborate.

Jabotinsky: A number of high-ranking Nazis in Munich must be assassinated. Their funeral will require the arrival of their senior comrades, including Hitler. Bombs containing 100 kilograms of explosives will be concealed in one of the coffins. As all the Nazis gather around the grave, 100 kilograms of bombs will explode and they'll all move on to the next world.

Meinertzhagen: Who will activatethe bomb system?

Jabotinsky: The Jewish gravedigger in Munich. He's a friend of mine.

The colonel, who was impressed by the plan, presented it to the Foreign Office in London. He concluded this chapter in one short line in his diary:

The Foreign Office frowned and the Nazis were saved."

(Excerpt) Read more at ynetnews.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: hitler; jabotinsky; nazis; wwii

1 posted on 07/18/2010 5:25:36 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

Hat Tip:

http://osint.internet-haganah.com/archives/001736.html

July 18, 2010

“THE FOREIGN OFFICE FROWNED AND THE NAZIS WERE SAVED.”


2 posted on 07/18/2010 5:26:29 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

I say old chap! Not very sporting of you!


3 posted on 07/18/2010 5:55:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Cindy
THE FOREIGN OFFICE FROWNED AND THE NAZIS WERE SAVED

Yup. It was all down hill for England after the "White Paper" in 1939. How fitting, the English imposed apartheid against Jews living in "Palestine" in 1939, and within months were at war with Nazi Germany. Again in 1947, they sided with the Muslims, and soon thereafter lost their empire.

The English have been systematically anti-Semitic for at least 90 years.
4 posted on 07/18/2010 6:12:08 PM PDT by Tzfat
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Gosh, it’s almost as if the British gov’t *wanted* to avoid opening a second front in Europe, and the Soviet Union to have to continue to struggle on, losing lives.

Thanks Cindy.


5 posted on 07/19/2010 7:02:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Jabotinsky is still a well-regarded historical figure in Israel, and there are numerous places named in his honor.

But the details of this Hitler assassination plot seem unrealistic, simply because there in all likelihood wouldn't be a Jewish gravedigger in Munich by late 1939. He would have left Germany by then, would have been rounded up and sent to a concentration camp, would have been killed, or would have been in hiding. It is unlikely that he could have faked being a non-Jew and gotten the job.

6 posted on 07/19/2010 8:16:27 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Jabotinsky says: “He’s a friend of mine.” It’s unlikely, but possible, and if Zev actually says that there was, we have to give that some credence. In 1939, the final solution wasn’t even close to being consummated.


7 posted on 07/20/2010 4:53:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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8 posted on 07/20/2010 5:02:53 AM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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9 posted on 07/20/2010 5:15:59 AM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: justiceseeker93
in all likelihood wouldn't be a Jewish gravedigger in Munich by late 1939. He would have left Germany by then, would have been rounded up and sent to a concentration camp, would have been killed, or would have been in hiding.

My grandparents left Berlin coincidentally on the day of Kristalnacht (Nov 38, My father was in his third year of school abroad by that time). The members of my family who didn't leave Berlin were rounded up during the winter of 42-43.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 07/20/2010 5:30:20 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: justiceseeker93

I’m far from expert but I don’t see that it is so implausible -— Nazi records were imperfect, such a “Jewish grave digger” might have been in the job for many years and so not have been scrutinized during the Nazi era, and/or might have had only “part-Jewish” ancestry that the Nazis were not aware of, a grave digger was probably one of the last people they were focused upon in their “Aryan purity” campaign.....

Have you heard of the book “The Nazi Officer’s Wife”?? apparently a Jewish woman from Vienna managed to live through all of the war in Munich married to a German officer (”hiding in plain sight”)..... not saying it happened often but there may have been isolated cases based upon lost or altered documents....??


11 posted on 07/20/2010 9:59:55 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: Enchante
OK, I agree that there were very rare Jews who lived out WWII in Germany or other Nazi occupied countries under some disguise or cover. But not likely at all.

Nazi records may have been imperfect (no government records can be), but they prioritized the rooting out of Jews from German society and engaged in it with such sadistic intensity that the existence of even a single Jewish gravedigger in Munich by the outbreak of WWII seems as likely as snow in Hawaii on the Fourth of July.

12 posted on 07/20/2010 10:20:58 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Cindy
So many countries tried and weighed in the balances as G!d's promise to Abraham is a forever promise( Gen ch12:1-3,) so goeth Tyre, Elam( Cyrus/Haman), Babylon(Nebuchadnezzar and sons, and again soon) Magog(soon) Damascus(Sennacharib, and soon)Tarshish, Gomer, all the great nations of Genesis(chapter 10) and of course England and America held in the balances. Wonder when G!D is going to dump the UN, the new Babylon.

*Please note: I may study the Bible new and Tanakh but NOT a pro, these are my interpolations, no one elses and always subject tochange and improvement)*

13 posted on 07/20/2010 3:13:07 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."DDE)
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To: Enchante; justiceseeker93

I’m highly skeptical. By 1939 Jews would have been ferreted out, heck, most Jews healthy enough to dig graves would have left Germany. Though likely stuck in Europe. Enchante could be correct that this was an individual with Jewish heritage who wasn’t “visible” as a Jew, but in that instance how would Jabotinsky, who had no ties (or travels) to Germany, and was likely in eastern Europe at the time, be so deeply involved to be recruiting a German gravedigger in a plot at that relatively late time of German persecution of Jews. As Enchante notes correctly, there were persons of Jewish heritage, and Jews, who made it through the war, but not by involving themselves in plots of this nature. More important, Jabotinsky was a pretty smart guy. The idea of preceding an assassination attempt on Hitler with the murder of multiple high ranking Nazis, so you can get him at the funeral, I’m thinking came from the British officer’s gin, not Jabotinsky.


14 posted on 07/20/2010 4:39:42 PM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Tzfat

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16 posted on 07/21/2010 1:23:05 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: Cindy

Jabotinsky was a hero,but I don’t believe he had any such plans.


17 posted on 07/21/2010 1:24:18 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: Enchante

I was going to bring that book up - although I didn’t read the book I saw the documentary that was made about it. FASCINATING story, and definitely a view from inside Austria & Germany during the war that’s unique. I highly recommend the documentary - and I can only imagine the book is even more interesting.


18 posted on 07/21/2010 2:04:52 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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