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The One-Hour Meltdown
How to Survive Hard Times ^ | July 22, 2009 | Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.

Posted on 06/06/2010 11:52:21 PM PDT by Windflier

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A chilling account of the first 24 hours after a global financial meltdown, and the ensuing chaos and disruption to the established order.

Read the balance of the article at the link for the author's advice on how to survive such a catastrophe.

1 posted on 06/06/2010 11:52:21 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: Windflier

Would it help to withdraw all money out of the bank and IRAs or will cash be worthless......should I panic yet? this old lady wants to know....remove things from safety deposit box? Whats a woman to do....:o(


2 posted on 06/06/2010 11:57:39 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Windflier

I agree with you, the situation is worse than what the public realizes. I think this is deliberate.


3 posted on 06/06/2010 11:58:40 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: Windflier

SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: MAKING MONEY DURING A DEPRESSION(PREPARE TO BE SURPRISED)
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=142352

What Would Another Great Depression Look Like Anyway?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2115250/posts


4 posted on 06/07/2010 12:10:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Windflier

Anybody who is not leading you in the direction of Psalm 91, and thinks there is a natural solution to the coming trouble, is operating in the spirit of anti-Christ. This is your solution, and if you think you can survive the coming great tribulation without the Lord God of Heaven’s assistance, you don’t have a prayer.

Psalm 91

1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.


5 posted on 06/07/2010 12:23:13 AM PDT by GiveMeLibertyOrDeath
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To: Windflier
repost of what I posted on the other thread...

I just read it for the first time, and it pretty much makes a lot of sense.
I can see his point that it’s not “if”, but “when”, and “how long” would it take. An hour seems to me a bit fast, a day or two might to me seem more likely, but no matter what, it comes down to the same thing:

You would have to survive with what you have. You would no longer be able to buy ANYTHING AT ALL.

I also TOTALLY agree that the whole GOOD philosophy is basically suicidal. The roads will become impassable before the day is over. Way better to hunker down, talk with your neighbors (hopefully, you have discussed these things with them in the past), set up guard rotations, and shut out the lights!

a sign you might see after a couple of days...

Looters will be SHOT!!!

after a few more days...

Looters will be SHOT!! EATEN!!!

I'm also starting to think more and more that cash would be good to have... maybe for the first week or so. After that, something as simple as a loaf of bread would cost you all the money you have. Commodities - food, gasoline, cigarettes, simple things like that would become priceless.
6 posted on 06/07/2010 12:23:24 AM PDT by djf
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To: goat granny

Believe me, this stuff is scary to all of us, me included. But, we need to quietly educate ourselves and spend time coming to grips with these possibilities while the social fabric is still intact and (relatively) peaceful.

My best advice, at least for tonight, is to go to the “How To Survive Hard Times” website and thoroughly study it. With knowledge comes certainty, and with certainty, confidence. Arm yourself with information now. Your sense of security will rise in direct proportion to learning this vital data, and then getting your preparations in hand.


7 posted on 06/07/2010 12:29:29 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: djf

Were you the one who posted the first thread from that website?

To a couple of the points you brought up:

The author put in an addendum at the bottom of that article that addressed people’s disagreement with his “One-Hour” timetable. He reiterates that it’s just an opinion, and that the total breakdown could take anywhere from an hour, up to a month to fully play out.

Personally, I agree with his initial assessment. Our world is so inextricably interconnected (especially the financial system), that if all of the major financial institutions shut down at once, it would cause instant panic, mayhem, and chaos all across the developed world. I see that as totally plausible.

As far as cash is concerned, I doubt that it would be worth much of anything, once everything crashed. At least not at first. The worst of the death and destruction would have to pass before the survivors were willing to begin doing any sort of primitive commerce with each other again. And at that point, I’ll bet that paper money wouldn’t be a recognized exchange medium. I’m pretty sure it would be precious metals. And even that wouldn’t happen until after things had stabilized quite a bit. Initially, barter would be the standard order of business.

Don’t know that I’d rely too much on the neighbors, either, unless they were as prepared as you are, and wouldn’t resort to trying to kill you to get your food.

Like the author says, being situated in a rural, or even semi-rural area will be the best possible place to survive such a disaster. If you’re inside a big city when the SHTF, you’re almost certainly going to be toast, unless you’re heavily armed, and have some way of making your way out without getting killed.


8 posted on 06/07/2010 12:51:00 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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A while back I had posted a thread relating to shelf life of canned goods, part of which came from his site.

Tell ya what, though, I just read his recommended list of a years supply of food, and it seems to me he is way over. But who knows? I know my appetite and food habits easily double if I’m doing things that take alot of physical activity versus sitting on the couch.


9 posted on 06/07/2010 12:56:13 AM PDT by djf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: MAKING MONEY DURING A DEPRESSION"

Interesting blog post/article by a guy who is living through an economic depression.

His suggestions are interesting, but if the One-Hour Meltdown happens, things will be much, much worse than what's happening in Argentina right now, or even during the Great Depression. We're talking total breakdown of the established social order here.

10 posted on 06/07/2010 1:21:54 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Too bad this scenario sounds entirely possible at this point.


11 posted on 06/07/2010 1:23:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: GiveMeLibertyOrDeath
This is your solution...

Excuse me, but no man tells me what my solution is. I walk the path I choose.

12 posted on 06/07/2010 1:33:34 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Great site!


13 posted on 06/07/2010 1:47:57 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: GiveMeLibertyOrDeath
Wonderful response. I would add only one thing. Get ‘familiar’ with that Refuge before the panic sets in. It is a marvelous place to be all the time. And if everyone would recognize the truth of what you say, what a far, far different world we would live in.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

14 posted on 06/07/2010 1:54:36 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty in the coming year)
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To: Windflier

ping for later


15 posted on 06/07/2010 3:09:13 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy (Gen 15:16 The iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete.)
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To: Windflier

My Preparedness Manual:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zghuhkgoqz4


16 posted on 06/07/2010 4:00:36 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ChocChipCookie

ping!


17 posted on 06/07/2010 4:06:55 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Windflier; goat granny; rbosque; 2ndDivisionVet; screaminsunshine; Shery; ChocChipCookie

Related older post [An event at my grocery store [An ATS member’s experience]:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2314019/posts


18 posted on 06/07/2010 4:18:23 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Windflier

Agreed, we are anticipating the other shoe dropping at some point in time.

As soon as the shelves in the markets start going bare, the fireworks will begin.


19 posted on 06/07/2010 4:22:51 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Windflier
Here's one good reason why banks couldn't simply "shut down" as easily as this guy describes: People owe the banks too much money.

If my ATM card and credit cards don't work and my attempt to call the bank's toll-free number results in endless recordings about excessive call volumes, I'd simply stop paying my mortgage, stop making car payments, stop paying my credit card bills, etc.

So much banking is done electronically these days anway -- which means the banks themselves would have no means to get paid if the whole system "shut down."

20 posted on 06/07/2010 4:34:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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