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BREAKING NEWS!!! JUSTICE HAS BEEN DENIED!!!!!
www.safeguardourconstitution.com ^ | 06/02/2010 | www.safeguardourconstitution.com

Posted on 06/03/2010 7:02:50 AM PDT by jy22077

LTC Terry Lakin IS NOT RECEIVING A FAIR TRIAL!!!! Lakin has been DENIED JUSTICE, DUE PROCESS and a FAIR TRIAL http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/ Lakin needs all the support we can muster.

Everyone needs to email this piece of work and tell him that Lakin has a right to JUSTICE and a FAIR TRIAL. Email away everyone: Daniel J. Dricoll LTC, JA Investigating Officer daniel.driscoll@amedd.army.mil ......http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/images/stories/documents/io_ruling_on_def_request_for_witnessesevid-usvlakin.pdf Let's make sure this email goes viral! www.safeguardourconstitution.com


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To: SnakeDoctor
"Regardless of what one thinks of Obama’s qualifications ... Lakin disobeyed the orders of a qualified superior (or several), and he’ll likely have to bear some consequences of that calculated decision to protest."

then at what point does an illegal order need to come into question?

81 posted on 06/03/2010 9:39:54 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: jy22077

Has his defense ever been allowed before?


82 posted on 06/03/2010 9:42:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: SnakeDoctor
or are you suggesting only the joint chief of staff can question the legality of the orders of the president?

83 posted on 06/03/2010 9:45:32 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: SnakeDoctor
Regardless of what one thinks of Obama’s qualifications ... Lakin disobeyed the orders of a qualified superior (or several), and he’ll likely have to bear some consequences of that calculated decision to protest.

SnakeDoc, I do believe that the Lakin is doing what he swore to do, defend the constitution and consequently our liberty with his life. That is what soldiers do!

He will, no doubt suffer for his stand, the question remains if he will suffer without our gratitude and support. Political pressure can be instrumental in the legal proceedings. I say we give him our prayers and support, for it is our liberty that he is a martyr.

Lakin is indeed on a mission with little chance of survival, but for men with a higher duty it is the mission that is of consequence. Against all odds is when the heroes of history raise their heads - only to have them removed so that others may not fear to raise theirs.

84 posted on 06/03/2010 9:46:25 AM PDT by DaveyB (Alcohol ,Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a bureaucracy!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Military regulations don’t really allow for ignoring or questioning orders without consequences. To do so would introduce anarchy to a system where structure is essential to save lives.

Junior officers are also not permitted to independently determine the legality of orders — so he is no more allowed to ignore this order than a soldier is allowed to ignore deployment to Iraq due to leftist international law justifications.

Do we really want the precedent of soldiers looking a superior in the eye and saying “justify your orders” with no consequences?

The bottom line is, they can’t force him to follow orders — but they can punish according to regulations for failing to do so. He chose the protest, he chose the consequences.

SnakeDoc


85 posted on 06/03/2010 9:47:13 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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To: DaveyB

You may very well be right. He may be upholding his oath ... he is also violating certain military regulations in the process.

The military cannot withstand consequence-free insubordination. To allow for such a precedent gives license to other soldiers to do whatever they want when their interpretation of the Constitution conflicts with their orders.

Anarchy does not win wars. We would not abide an objector who refused deployment based on his personal judgment of the legality of a war effort, and we should not abide an objector that refuses deployment based on his judgment of the the qualification of the CIC.

He may very well be a hero. Heroes, however, often have to accept the consequences of their decisions.

SnakeDoc


86 posted on 06/03/2010 9:52:33 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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To: basil
He's a military doctor who's refusing to deploy because he believes Obama hasn't done enough to establish that he's eligible for the presidence.

In other words, he's a birther deserter.

87 posted on 06/03/2010 9:58:48 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: BubbaJunebug

You gotta problem? I’m sittin’ here, right now, trying to eat a sirloin butt steak!


88 posted on 06/03/2010 10:00:16 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“How could you FReep here and not know the Col. Lakin story?”

Because you avoid Birther threads, for health and sanity?


89 posted on 06/03/2010 10:04:11 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SnakeDoctor
I actually kinda feel bad for the umpire.

Don't, he knows that Armondo is an illegal alien that the feds refuse to do anything about.....

90 posted on 06/03/2010 10:13:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Tublecane

“How could you FReep here and not know the Col. Lakin story?”

Because you avoid Birther threads, for health and sanity?

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Nahhhh. Even the anti-birther Obamabots who FReep here should know who Col. Lakin is.

But you have a point abount their sanity. To deny there are legitimate questions and concerns over Obama’s birth proves one is insane.


91 posted on 06/03/2010 10:18:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Do you have a link to the transcripts?


92 posted on 06/03/2010 10:20:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: DaveyB
Pragmatism aside, it appears to me he is a man with integrity who understands that orders from his superior officers are derivative of the constitutional authority of the commander in chief.

If every order given by Lakin's superiors is illegal, then wouldn't that mean that every order Lakin has give since January 20, 2008 is illegal as well?

93 posted on 06/03/2010 10:22:14 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: jy22077

LTC Lakin hasn’t been denied anything trial wise at this point. The trial hasn’t begun and this is all prelim stuff. Keep you pants on. He’ll have appeals processes to follow.


94 posted on 06/03/2010 10:24:40 AM PDT by deport
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To: SnakeDoctor
I agree with you. I've said from the beginning that LTC Lakin was throwing away what was from all accounts a distinguished career for nothing. He was either very misguided or got very bad advice. Where Obama was born has no relevance to the orders he disobeyed.
95 posted on 06/03/2010 10:25:59 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


96 posted on 06/03/2010 10:35:40 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not only did he attempt to post this twice within two hours. He also hasn’t made a post since Jul 03, 08. Not exactly a active member.


97 posted on 06/03/2010 10:36:02 AM PDT by deport
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To: Non-Sequitur
If every order given by Lakin's superiors is illegal, then wouldn't that mean that every order Lakin has give since January 20, 2008 is illegal as well?

In a word - yes!

If indeed the executive branch has been usurped by a foreigner (it certainly has been by one with foreign allegiances),then the constitutional crisis that has resulted is catastrophic. I am not convinced that we have been under a legal government since 2008; the usurper has the guns, but not lawful authority. This has been Alan Keys assertion and Lakin's.

98 posted on 06/03/2010 10:36:55 AM PDT by DaveyB (Alcohol ,Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a bureaucracy!)
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To: jy22077

bump


99 posted on 06/03/2010 10:37:12 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I suppose the real question is, does a CIC with questionable qualification make the entire military into a rogue body following illegal orders?

A military cannot be leaderless. If the CIC is unqualified, then, I guess the Joint Chiefs are running the show ... but they’re giving the same orders as the CIC. Unless everyone above him is unqualified, at some point LC Lakin is willfully disobeying the orders of a qualified superior.

SnakeDoc


100 posted on 06/03/2010 10:38:07 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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