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New Written Language of Ancient Scotland Discovered
Discovery News ^ | Wednesday, March 31, 2010 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 04/06/2010 4:24:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

New Written Language of Ancient Scotland Discovered
photo: Rob Knell and Rob Lee
The ancestors of modern Scottish people left behind mysterious, carved stones that new research has just determined contain the written language of the Picts, an Iron Age society that existed in Scotland from 300 to 843. The highly stylized rock engravings, found on what are known as the Pictish Stones, had once been thought to be rock art or tied to heraldry. The new study, published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society A, instead concludes that the engravings represent the long lost language of the Picts, a confederation of Celtic tribes that lived in modern-day eastern and northern Scotland... Rob Lee... a professor in the School of Biosciences at the University of Exeter... and colleagues Philip Jonathan and Pauline Ziman analyzed the engravings, found on the few hundred known Pictish Stones. The researchers used a mathematical process known as Shannon entropy to study the order, direction, randomness and other characteristics of each engraving. The resulting data was compared with that for numerous written languages, such as Egyptian hieroglyphs, Chinese texts and written Latin, Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, Ancient Irish, Old Irish and Old Welsh. While the Pictish Stone engravings did not match any of these, they displayed characteristics of writing based on a spoken language. Lee explained that writing comes in two basic forms: lexigraphic writing that is based on speech and semasiography, which is not based on speech.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: caledonia; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; gundestrupcauldron; ogham; pict; pictish; picts; scotland; scotlandyet; scots; tanistry
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To: devolve

Can’t read it, huh? Lol.


21 posted on 04/06/2010 6:29:39 PM PDT by potlatch (~~"Where secrecy or mystery begins, vice or roguery is not far off. "~~)
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To: GSP.FAN

Barry Fell noted that this particular image from the Gundestrup Cauldron is holding up his hands and spelling “thunder” in Ogham — and the figure is a thunder deity. One view (which IMHO is correct) is that the method of writing began as fingerspelling, a way to communicate silently and (if others were unfamiliar with it) secretly.

http://www3.bell.net/sacredwheel/gundestrup.jpg


22 posted on 04/06/2010 6:50:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: colorado tanker

:’)


23 posted on 04/06/2010 7:06:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: GSP.FAN

I used to enjoy that track.

I’d quibble, there aren’t any indigenous people, or rather, no uniquely indigenous people — we’ve all come from where we’ve come from (I live about a half mile from where I was born, by coinky-dinky); the Picts entered Scotland from Ireland, probably because they got their butts kicked out. :’)


24 posted on 04/06/2010 7:09:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: potlatch

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Lots of stone

I wonder how they ran it through a photocopier


25 posted on 04/06/2010 7:14:36 PM PDT by devolve
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To: devolve

Funny
No jokes from me, you never laugh, lol.


26 posted on 04/06/2010 7:20:12 PM PDT by potlatch (~~"Where secrecy or mystery begins, vice or roguery is not far off. "~~)
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To: Plutarch
"I'm Sir Arnold Stirrup, and I'll be your supporter for the evening."

Ian Anderson

27 posted on 04/06/2010 7:23:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gaelic in Eire was not taught to outsiders,in the 18 and 19 century the brits outlawed the speaking of the gaelic language..
So it went underground,when i went to school they taught it as a second language.
I believe it is dead now,we are all Europeans...


28 posted on 04/06/2010 7:34:02 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: potlatch

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LOL!

My MUTE key is stuck - on MUTE


29 posted on 04/06/2010 7:59:00 PM PDT by devolve
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting stuff. I find your name on many of these history threads. If you have a ping list, please add me. I enjoy your postings.


30 posted on 04/07/2010 6:28:37 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SunkenCiv; Iron Munro
"...the Picts entered Scotland from Ireland, probably because they got their butts kicked out. :’) ..."

Freeper Iron Munro's last name is Scottish, it translates to "(originating or coming) from the River Ro". The river Ro is in Ireland. Maybe his people had a hand in this saga.

31 posted on 04/07/2010 8:11:09 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (It's not too late to begin your preps !)
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To: GSP.FAN

All the street signs in Ireland are in Gaelic, as well as the titles of government officials. How can you say the language is dead?


32 posted on 04/07/2010 9:09:45 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: devolve

I know.


33 posted on 04/07/2010 9:53:16 AM PDT by potlatch (~~"Where secrecy or mystery begins, vice or roguery is not far off. "~~)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh, I think this is very cool! Weren’t the picts considered witches?

Did they have anything to do with the Druids? Wonder if it would shed light on the Druids?


34 posted on 04/07/2010 9:56:58 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They don’t teach it in schools anymore,when i was going to school 44 yrs ago the christian brothers taught me to speak it.
When i left school i never used it and now have largely forgotten it..
I believe there is one little community on the West coast that still speaks it..


35 posted on 04/07/2010 10:29:57 AM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

The river Roe is in Ireland...;>)


36 posted on 04/07/2010 11:01:43 AM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: GSP.FAN
Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict.... From the Ummaguumma album by Pink Floyd....

On Lurker's IPod.

37 posted on 04/07/2010 11:03:47 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Savage Beast; JoeProBono

Me too.


38 posted on 04/07/2010 11:26:23 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: SunkenCiv

here we go....once upon a time...there was a bunch of men and they had a bunch of horses....


39 posted on 04/07/2010 11:28:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: GSP.FAN

if these pics are on stone, they should be on paper someplace


40 posted on 04/07/2010 11:30:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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