Posted on 03/25/2010 10:11:52 AM PDT by djf
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If there were 36 hours in the day, Ron Paul would be right at least three times.
How can anybody trust libertarians when their favorite
“son” loads up legislation that he knows will pass and
gives the pork while giggling “I voted against it.”?
***
Shrimp boats Is Acomin
Their Sails are in sight.
Shrimp Boats is acomin
there will be dancing tonight.
** Ron Paul version.
Shrimp Boats is acomin
Their pork is in sight.
Shrimp Boats is acomin
They will be drugged up tonight.
Oh, I don’t know. The way the Dems are spending money, insolvency could be awaiting us. That surely would collapse all these programs.
He is probably right on this. The country is beyond broke.
No doubt
Superman himself won’t be able to save this country when the government goes broke and the welfare, social security, etc. payments stop
Yup. On not much else, but on this issue he probably is correct.
Nice theory. Problem is when the collapse does come the Socialized Medicine as we have it won’t matter, because the Marxists will have reached Nirvana - a vacuum to fill. They know Socialized Medicine is the means to the end. Once the country collapses EVERYTHING will be “Socialized”, or government run.
If the country goes bankrupt, nothing will get repealed; all property will be confiscated as we leap forward into the land where all pigs will not be equal...
Oh, believe me. I don’t think he is wrong...I just would rather see it repealed some other way...:(
For those of us who aren’t defeatists, we would rather fight to defeat this and change things without waiting for the complete collapse. I have actually seen some Paulistianians rooting for this to ‘speed up the collapse’.
Good point, totalitarians thrive on crisis to gain power. If the country went bankrupt, it wouldn’t repeal any of these programs, it would just make everyone demanding more and more programs to fix the problem, resulting in big brother controlling more and more to ‘fix’ it.
Do you contend that the system of government now in control is the government of the constitution? If its not then my goal is to see it collapse. There is a very narrow window, maybe one election cycle, maybe two, whereby it is conceivable that we can salvage this system. After that I’ll be in the “speed the collapse” camp.
It can collapse at the ballot box, in the courts, and through us taking it over- the country herself doesn’t need to collapse.
The latter would more likely than not, just give more power to those with totalitarian tendencies- it certainly wouldn’t return us to a Constitutional Republic.
Nearly only perceptive and intelligent post on this thread...
“The latter would more likely than not, just give more power to those with totalitarian tendencies- it certainly wouldn’t return us to a Constitutional Republic.”
I never see a post-financial collapse USA turning into a more free country. Instead, the financial collapse will mean the loss of a large amount of wealth for the super-majority, an accumulation of power among a few, and the USA becoming more like Argentina.
In other words: financial collapse is a very bad thing; and I would never wish for it to occur sooner or at all. However, I do fear that we are accelerating into bankruptcy.
My contention is that we cant recover the Constitutional system at the ballot box. The entitlement state is already to great and gets more ensconced daily. For me this healthcare bill is the Rubicon. If it is upheld by Federal courts and if the states are ineffective in nullifying it, the Federal Government is at odd with the constitution and its values.
And your point is a good one that a collapse of the Federal Government would lead to a totalitarian power grab. The mission of those who uphold the constitution, I hope, is to strengthen the other institutions in our society before the collapse comes and thereby hold off the totalitarian push and allow for a new firmer footing of good government.
Not just the US. Look at the history of Totalitarian regimes, almost all were ushered in through an economic collapse or other crisis.
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