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1 posted on 01/30/2010 11:33:30 AM PST by Perdogg
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2 posted on 01/30/2010 11:34:20 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Perdogg
Does Kurt Warner deserve a spot in the NFL Hall of Fame?

You betcha - first ballot

3 posted on 01/30/2010 11:36:33 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Perdogg

2 time MVP, 3 highest yardage QB games in the SB, 1 ring. Not to mention being one of the major faces for the league pretty much his whole career, even when playing in non-NFL hotbed cities like Phoenix and St Louis (remember it’s call the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Stats). I can’t really see a remotely believable argument to keep him out of the Hall.


4 posted on 01/30/2010 11:37:19 AM PST by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Perdogg

I’m with capydick, first ballot. I hated him when he played, he exploited my Seachicken’s at every junction. LOL!

Thanks Kurt, for the memories.


6 posted on 01/30/2010 11:45:43 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Perdogg

Yes! Just based on the amount of wins he brought to my own fantasy football team!


7 posted on 01/30/2010 11:51:35 AM PST by ScottinSacto
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To: Perdogg

He is a lock to get in.


8 posted on 01/30/2010 11:58:37 AM PST by Republican Extremist
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To: Perdogg

Sorry Pal there are at least 8, you forgot Broadway Joe Namath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 01/30/2010 12:00:31 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Perdogg

Absolutely.


13 posted on 01/30/2010 12:04:23 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Perdogg

Yes!!!

and this is from a Cowboys fan no less!

I admire Kurt. He exemplifies America. Rags to Riches. God Loving. Country Loving. Wife Loving. Family Loving. Hard Worker. Non Complainer

If I personally have to carry him on my shoulders for like 10 yards (as he weighs too much for me), I will do so..all the way to the Hall of Fame


21 posted on 01/30/2010 12:38:30 PM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Perdogg

Yep. No question.


23 posted on 01/30/2010 1:00:31 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Perdogg

Yes.


24 posted on 01/30/2010 1:01:36 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Perdogg
Absolutely he deserves to be inducted

But we must be affirmative action Politically Correct when they do it.

Warner needs to be selected, but only be inducted when Donovan McNabb is eligible to also be inducted.

Just to be fair........you know

25 posted on 01/30/2010 1:06:36 PM PST by Popman (Election 2010: Congress: your pink slips are coming ............... :)
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To: Perdogg
As an unknown backup he took a 400-1 shot all the way to the show and won it. Then he took the sad sack Cardinals to the show too.

Also a great guy, an excellent role model, and a very humble man. I would be the NFL wishes they had a league full of Kurt Warners. First Ballot HoFer. From a Seahawks fan no less...JFK

27 posted on 01/30/2010 1:24:08 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Perdogg

kurt warner is a slam dunk imo.


29 posted on 01/30/2010 2:02:35 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: Perdogg

I was never a fan because of the teams he played for. But, does he deserve to be in the HOF - you betcha.


31 posted on 01/30/2010 3:00:15 PM PST by stop_fascism (Georgism is Capitalism's best, last hope)
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To: Perdogg

I would say yes and I acknowledge its a close call. He basically has 3 pretty super years for the Rams and then 4 off years in the middle and came back with two or three good season for the Cardinals. Consider he took two really bad teams to the super bowl. Plus he truly was a great ambassador for the game.


32 posted on 01/30/2010 3:20:51 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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I was lukewarm about Warner and the Hall until I realized he’d lifted not one but two franchises to their greatest heights in the past 40 years. It’s not the same as all the Steelers and Cowboys and 49ers in the Hall because they played alongside a lot of other Hall-of-Famers. The Cardinals and Rams have been a giant crapfest for most of my lifetime except when Kurt Warner was their quarterback. For that reason alone, he’d get my vote.


37 posted on 01/30/2010 6:12:40 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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I don’t know if I’d buy it based on the passer ratings. First, you’re comparing Warner with 7 quarterbacks who played in eras when passer ratings were lower across the board than they were during Warner’s career. Second, passer rating, for all the goods intentions behind it in attempting to quantify a quarterback’s general effectiveness, is really a garbage statistic.

His 57-44 record is comparable to Fouts and Moon, but to no one else on your list. I don’t remember what the talk was when Fouts was inducted, but I do remember that Moon was not necessarily considered a sure thing despite being one of the most prolific passers of all time. Also, I don’t remember either Moon or Fouts spending any veteran seasons as a backup. I think Warner only started two complete seasons in his career - hardly what I would expect of someone who was a “face of the NFL”.

As for Super Bowl records, there are several Super Bowl winning quarterbacks who aren’t in the Hall of Fame, including:

Jim Plunkett (2-0)
Ken Stabler (1-0)
Joe Theismann (1-1)
Phil Simms (1-0)
Doug Williams (1-0)
Jeff Hostetler (1-0)
Mark Rypien (1-0)

I’m not saying Warner doesn’t belong in the Hall of Fame - I think there’s an argument to be made. I do have a hard time seeing him as a no-brainer, first ballot Hall of Famer, though.


40 posted on 01/30/2010 9:57:36 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Despite what some people think, Warner will get into the Hall of Fame using what I call the Colin Cowherd test--can you describe the athlete's greatness in one sentence?

I can sum up Warner's career thus: he brought greatness to two downtrodden franchises. Good enough for me!

41 posted on 01/30/2010 11:27:36 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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