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Windows 95 to Windows 7: How Microsoft lost its vision
The Register (UK) ^ | 22nd October 2009 06:02 GMT | Tim Anderson

Posted on 11/05/2009 8:58:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Behind the taskbar

Comment Much better than Vista, and the best Windows yet. That seems to be the consensus view on Windows 7, and after two and a half months with the final build, I more or less agree - despite the niggling voice that says behind the new taskbar it is not really so different from Windows Vista.

Nevertheless, Windows 7 on its launch today is a better experience than Windows Vista was when released in early 2007, thanks to a UI polish, faster hardware, better drivers, and new features that users actually enjoy - Taskbar, Libraries, Aero Peek - rather than features that were detrimental to usability and compatibility even if there were good reasons for them. Yes, User Account Control, I'm thinking of you.

It is a good effort from the Windows 7 team, though its task was easier than that facing the Windows Vista crew. Windows 7 is a refinement of Windows Vista, whereas Vista was meant to be revolutionary.


Essentials of the Windows 95 user interface remain in Windows 7

The interesting questions about Windows Vista concern not what was delivered, but what was omitted. I attended Microsoft's 2003 Professional Developers Conference (PDC), where we heard about the now-notorious "three pillars of Longhorn": Avalon, later called Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF); Indigo, later called Windows Communication Foundation; and WinFS, still called WinFS, still not shipped.

WinFS was the relational file system that was itself a delayed variation of the Object File System promised for the Cairo project originally talked about in 1991. Making it work sensibly, though, proved too difficult. With two of three pillars removed, no wonder Windows Vista tottered.

Ah, but surely Avalon was left in? It is true that WPF did ship with Windows Vista, but Avalon as originally ....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; vista; windows7
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To: NVDave

I agree that incorporation of the GUI as an integral part of the OS was the biggest mistake. Bloat above and below is also a contributor.

Direct X was another huge mistake.

I use XP on my work machine daily, but my personal machine runs Linux with XFCE GUI. I love the lack of bloat.

There are a few applications that are missing on the Linux side that keep me from never using Windows, but as time passes my need for both is reducing.

The reason this stuff happened with windows has nothing to do with building an OS. It is about enabling developers to spam/scam us and make money in the process. It is about tracking, not security. About control and not freedom to use the machine as I choose.


21 posted on 11/05/2009 9:38:14 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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Wikipedia:

Metaphor Computer Systems

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Metaphor Computer Systems (1982-1994) was a Xerox PARC spin-off that created an advanced workstation, database gateway, a unique graphical office interface, and software applications that ....

The Metaphor machine was one of the first commercial workstations to offer a complete hardware/software package and a GUI.[citation needed] Although the company achieved some commercial success, it never achieved the fame of either the Apple Macintosh or Microsoft Windows.[citation needed]

22 posted on 11/05/2009 9:42:20 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don’t know what was worse......Windows Vista or Office 2007.....


23 posted on 11/05/2009 9:43:51 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: Boiling Pots
BUT....The Business guys made the right decisions....

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Marketing guys HYPE the Hell out of it....but the developers can't deliver all of their vision cause it is too big of a change...but they get enough change to irritate those that don't want change.,...

24 posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: Cyber Liberty

In Vista, right-click on the desktop. Select “Personalize”

Click on “Windows Color and Appearance.”

Then you can select “Windows Standard” or “Windows Classic” if you want to go way back.

In S7, it goes even further: you can run XP in a virtual machine and put application windows that look just like classic windows onto the desktop. The first S7 machine I’ve encountered - I’ll admit the VM was very good. I didn’t know I wasn’t running XP until I fiddled around a bit and noticed “hey... I’m in a VM guest...”

Since the application version the user was running required XP or Vista (and they previously had been running it on XP and didn’t want to upgrade to Vista), as soon as their IT dep’t brought up a S7 machine to test app compatibility, they noticed some problems so they put up the VM and it allowed them to run their app. As long as the users were running one app, they figured “Shoot, we were getting work done just fine in XP before this Vista crap” so that’s what they’re doing: getting work done in an XP guest on a S7 system. The IT department is sort of disappointed — along the lines of “You don’t like the new system?”

The users’ response it “We like it just fine. It runs WinXP, so we get our work done, and it doesn’t act slower, so we’re happy.”

The IT department wanders off, shaking their head, completely missing the fact that for many computer users today, the bleeding edge of technology doesn’t hold any special cachet or fascination, as it does for propeller-heads.

FWIW, this is a CAD/CAM shop. And XP really did do everything they needed to do. A little MS Office, support the CAD/CAM applications and some other drawing programs, and they were happy as clams in mud on their XP systems. They didn’t want for speed, they had good uptime and reliability - except for the occasional virus. So they pretty much sat out the Vista cycle.

MSFT is continues to cater to people who get a stiffy from new technology, and continues to miss the point that their platforms are used to get useful work done. Which means “Don’t force me to change when things are working well and I’m making money with this machine.” If there’s one thing I hear more and more as I continue to move away from the Silicon Valley mindset, it is that point: “Quit messing with me. It works. Don’t [screw] with it.”


25 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:43 AM PST by NVDave
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To: parsifal
So you are running Word Perfect?....

When was the last update on that?

26 posted on 11/05/2009 9:59:22 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: Noumenon
Anyone out there remember the Pick OS?

Yes. I know a guy that is a Pick genius. I would kill to have his ability with Pick. LOL-but seriously.

"It's an OS", no, "it's a Database". NO! It's EVERYTHING! hahaha
27 posted on 11/05/2009 9:59:48 AM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: NVDave

Microsoft’s approach is all about making a Busineeesss Decision....


28 posted on 11/05/2009 10:01:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

12 just got an update and a patch, didn’t it?


29 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:21 AM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: NVDave

Thanks, my wife and I are going to look into doing that for her Vista. She’s hated it since the day we got it because the GUI’s all different from her old ‘98, and for no good reason.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:04 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: SkyDancer
Yes....I'm familiar with boot loops. Statistically, it's not an issue with 7.

Never "upgrade" your OS in place. Burn/backup to USB drive, the files you want to keep. Spend the 40-50 bucks on a new hard drive for your laptop and do a fresh install of 7. You will be very pleased.

31 posted on 11/05/2009 10:23:50 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

A new hard drive for my laptop runs about $180 - Toshiba. There should be a way to completely scrub the drive and do a fresh install.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 10:27:38 AM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer
There should be a way to completely scrub the drive and do a fresh install.

Isn't that like asking for Manna from Heaven?

33 posted on 11/05/2009 10:32:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Isn't that like asking for Manna from Heaven?

I think it would be more like expecting manna from Hell.
34 posted on 11/05/2009 10:34:27 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SkyDancer
Someone's jerking you around...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&SubCategory=380&N=2010150380

You can choose to over write your current drive but unless you have a backup on another computer, that's never smart. You always forget something and it's gone for good.

35 posted on 11/05/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Noumenon

You know what’s amazing: 7 on a SSD. It just screams.


36 posted on 11/05/2009 10:37:46 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: papasmurf; parsifal
Well,...indeed...you hear so little about 'Wordperfect' I just assumed it was dead....Wrong...

Wonder if there is a version for Ubuntu and other Unix....Linux systems...?

37 posted on 11/05/2009 10:38:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Geert Wilders)
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To: TopQuark

Faster, more stable, better drivers packaged, better driver compatibility. Changes that actually matter, unlike silly stuff like these guys are asking for, like a different UI.


38 posted on 11/05/2009 10:38:38 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: pallis; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I’m going to hang onto XP for another year. It works for me.

I'm not budging until the 2012-2014 time frame, depending on hardware and application support.

I just re-installed everything on one of our boxes yesterday, and XP Pro SP3 (with Nod32 and Nvidia drivers running) after the use of msconfig, etc. is only consuming about 260 Mb of RAM at boot (plus it's booting in well under thirty seconds). I think I might purchase Malwarebytes (to get the real-time protection) and maybe DeepFreeze (got a virus? just reboot, and Windows reverts back to *before* you got pwned).

If I budge for anything, it will be to get some CyberPower UPS devices, a real NAS (Synology or Qnap, with dual Gig-E onboard NICs, since my Netgear GS108T supports link aggregation), more Dell SE198WFP wide-screen LCDs (cheap--only $120--but high quality, and includes DVI cables in the box), a Silicon Dust HD Home Run network TV tuner (plus rabbit-ear antennas), a Cisco home router, and AFT kiosk card readers (look on Newegg). Oh, and maybe upgrade to Verizon FiOS from plain ol' DSL or get Adobe CS4 Master Collection or a real Windows 2008 Server box ($$$) some day.

Those are worthwhile upgrades. Windows 7, otoh, is not. Any OS, if managed badly by its users, will be insecure and nasty.

39 posted on 11/05/2009 10:40:52 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Actually they got rid of the “give me back my UI” button in 7. In the previous versions you right click on the Taskbar, hit properties, hit the Start Menu tab and select “classic”. But in 7 the got rid of it, though with some clever dragging and dropping you can put it back.


40 posted on 11/05/2009 10:41:30 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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