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A Vanity, In Which The Need For Speed Is Discussed
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Posted on 11/04/2009 8:43:59 AM PST by ExGeeEye

Assume the statutory speed limit of 70 MPH; the tendency of the local constabulary to ignore violations up to 5 MPH over; A stream of traffic in the right-hand lane averaging 68-72 MPH; and a certain sense of scofflawry and haste on my part that may rise to the level of a ticket without tipping over into the “reckless” category; and the fact that I am therefore in the continuous process of "passing on the left" all of those law-abiding drivers in the right lane.

A question: exactly how fast must I be going before I must make way for a non-emergency vehicle intent upon hitching ride in my trunk?

Someone once told me that 20-over is an acceptable maximum. That’s 90 MPH. I had to ask, "are you serious?"


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KEYWORDS: keeprightpassleft; law; lawlessness; speed
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By which I mean: we all know what the civil law is; I seek an opnion from those who are a law unto themselves, whose self-directed laws must for some reason apply to me in the place of the civil law or any self-directed laws I may have conjured out of the air.
1 posted on 11/04/2009 8:44:03 AM PST by ExGeeEye
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You are supposed to move over as quickly as you can but I do not see that driving 90 mph to “get out of the way” as an acceptable way of doing so.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 8:46:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Get out of second gear and get out of the way.
Why should you block another somewhat-law-abiding citizen’s right to determine their own speed limit?

If you are driving slow enough for someone to get that close, you don’t belong in the left lane.

Beep Beep, Beep Beep, his horn went beep beep beep.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 8:50:31 AM PST by Macoozie (Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: ExGeeEye

If you can safely pull out of the way, you should.


4 posted on 11/04/2009 8:53:37 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ExGeeEye
A question: exactly how fast must I be going before I must make way for a non-emergency vehicle intent upon hitching ride in my trunk?

Not about the speed limit. Slower traffic, keep right, period - at least on a limted access, divided highway.

5 posted on 11/04/2009 8:55:09 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: ExGeeEye
A question: exactly how fast must I be going before I must make way for a non-emergency vehicle intent upon hitching ride in my trunk?

Not about the speed limit. Slower traffic, keep right, period - at least on a limited access, divided highway.

6 posted on 11/04/2009 8:55:48 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: ExGeeEye

IBTP?


7 posted on 11/04/2009 8:56:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ExGeeEye
A question: exactly how fast must I be going before I must make way for a non-emergency vehicle intent upon hitching ride in my trunk?

If you're not passing, GTF out of the passing lane.

A--holes who live in the passing lane piss me off.

They think they are oh-so-important compared to everybody else.

8 posted on 11/04/2009 8:58:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Heh. Under the law unto ME, if you're in front of me and I want to go faster than you are going, you are an idiot.

I think George Carlin said it - everybody going slower than me is an idiot, everybody going faster is a maniac.

I hate freeways. I'll take the two lane side road any day of the week.

9 posted on 11/04/2009 8:59:46 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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the law states you pull over and let the red lights pass.......NOT speed up - PULL OVER and STOP.

I was driving an ambulance on the highway with a CPR going on in the back.......an idiot was matching my speed blocking me in in the passing lane.......after a hand gesture on my part indicating my lights......and my siren was going....he sped up to over 90 and disappeared......guess he thought he was more important than my patient. my only regret was that I couldn’t get someone on my radio to come arrest him. he was one of the biggest jerks I ever encountered.

does THAT answer your question?


10 posted on 11/04/2009 9:03:31 AM PST by tioga ( November 6, 2012 - Cannot come soon enough.)
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As an aside, I took the autobahn driving test a while ago.

It is illegal to be passed on the right.

Note, it is not illegal to pass on the right, but to be passed on the right.

Germans are odd people, but they know how to drive on the highway.


11 posted on 11/04/2009 9:04:04 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you're not passing, GTF out of the passing lane.

Exactly. Doing otherwise forces people bent on hauling a** into other lanes of traffic, weaving in and out, cutting off other drivers to get around... the squatter.

Crap lane discipline causes a LOT of problems, because young drivers these days ASSUME people are going to squat, and don't even bother with the passing lane - they just pass on the right, in their fartcan equipped turbo Civics.

12 posted on 11/04/2009 9:05:12 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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It doesn’t matter,

even if you are going 90mph in the left and someone behind you wants to do 95mph then you should move over.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 9:05:25 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: tioga
the law states you pull over and let the red lights pass

The OP did specify "non-emergency."

14 posted on 11/04/2009 9:08:16 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: ExGeeEye
exactly how fast must I be going before I must make way for a non-emergency vehicle intent upon hitching ride in my trunk?

It doesn't matter. If they want to go faster than you are then get the hell out of the way.
15 posted on 11/04/2009 9:11:09 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: ExGeeEye

If you’re in the left lane and slowing somebody down, get out of the left lane and let them go by. Period.


16 posted on 11/04/2009 9:11:46 AM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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If you’re concerned more about safety and the orderly, predictable flow of traffic, you’ll move over for an overtaking vehicle, rather than playing rolling roadblock to prove a point.

I have a cousin who is a civil engineer for the NC DOT, and he has some interesting terms for traffic flow. One of them is “friction.” “Friction” is bad. “Friction” gets people killed. It’s caused by widely variant speeds on the highway, and people passing in lanes closer to onramps, where they’re unexpected.

Another one of those terms is “slinky effect.” If you’ve ever wondered what’s happening, when you get stalled in traffic for no apparent reason, this is the cause. It’s an echo from an accident or even a distraction on the shoulder, from hours before. It takes a while in heavy traffic, for the stopping and starting to even out, and it can radiate back down the highway for miles.


17 posted on 11/04/2009 9:12:11 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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You should pull over for any emergency vehicle that’s behind you, no matter how fast you’re going. Part of his safety in driving fast to the emergency is a wide open lane and field of view in which to travel in, not a potentially unpredictable obstacle traveling at high speed right in front of him.

As for others who think the left lane is for them to drive unencumbered, no. I’ll stay in the left lane if there’s slower traffic to my right and I’m traveling significantly but safely faster than them. That doesn’t mean I’m going to step aside for every Tom, Dick and Harry that think there is no speed limit. If you want that right, drive an ambulance.


18 posted on 11/04/2009 9:18:07 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: xsrdx

an emergency vehicle without lights and sirens going do not require you to pull over at all........DUH!


19 posted on 11/04/2009 9:21:28 AM PST by tioga ( November 6, 2012 - Cannot come soon enough.)
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and another thing,

It’s usually not one slow @§§¶0!£ in the left lane that’s the problem, the problem is the 2nd, 3rd, etc. cars that end up behind him/her/it who believe that because that 1st @§§¶0!£ is driving slow, it’s OK for them to be @§§¶0!£s and also drive as slow.

If you are not doing anything to get around the 1st @§§¶0!£, you are blocking me and everybody else from getting past him/her/it,

If you are unwilling to go around get the hell out of the way.


20 posted on 11/04/2009 9:23:18 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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