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Prizefight week of October 22 Microsoft Windows 7 vs. Apple Snow Leopard
CNet Reviews ^ | 10/22/2009 | Josh Lowensohn, Rafe Needleman, and Seth Rosenblatt

Posted on 10/22/2009 10:20:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker

The contenders: Microsoft Windows 7 vs. Apple Snow Leopard

Microsoft Windows 7 (Professional)



Apple Mac OS X Snow Leopard

It's not often that the two most popular operating systems get major updates so close to each other, so we couldn't resist throwing them into a cage match together. Already we can hear some of you screaming that Snow Leopard isn't a major update--we know this one's personal! But is Windows 7 nothing more than "Vista done right"?

Microsoft's severe stumble with Vista aside, Windows 7 clearly positions the operating system for the future, with a new look that integrates heavily with the new features. Snow Leopard, too, is geared toward the future, saving you space on your hard drive and including some useful new tricks that Microsoft still lacks.

The judges for this Prizefight hardly shy away from telling you what they think about software, webware, and the operating systems you need to get to all those goodies. Now, everybody's got their opinion on the great Apple versus Microsoft debate, but for a few minutes, suspend your disbelief as they explain which operating system is better and why.

(Excerpt) Read more at reviews.cnet.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys; osxsnowleopard; windows7
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1 posted on 10/22/2009 10:20:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

I installed Windows 7 this morning. It works well, is quicker, and has better filing features.

I’m still learning, but there’s no doubt that it is the best Windows yet.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 10:24:36 PM PDT by Loud Mime (The time to water the tree of liberty approaches......)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
PrizeFight at CNet between Window7 and OS X Snow Leopard PING!


Mac OS X Snow Leopard v. Windows7 Ping!

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3 posted on 10/22/2009 10:25:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Loud Mime

I run Leopard 10.5.8 and Windows 7 Ultimate on a quad core AMD machine with 4 GB of memory. Both OS’s are very very good. Windows has way more applications available, and networks with all our other machines better. Macs are elegant in design and accomplish most of the tasks I need just as well as the PC. Since I can’t choose between them, I have them both, and run whichever one I feel like using at a given moment.


4 posted on 10/22/2009 10:36:50 PM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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ah my christmas present from me to me for being such a good boy this year. Windows 7 ultimate, 6 gigs of ram, and a new monitor.

Double+ droll.


5 posted on 10/22/2009 10:46:09 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Swordmaker

Who cares how good Snow Leopard is? What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X? And don’t say “Boot camp” because that is useless for performance-level requirements.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 10:48:56 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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Windows Vista will be the same old low-quality crap we've come to expect from Microsoft.

1 posted on September 23, 2005 12:05:42 AM CDT by HAL9000

Well, that prediction worked out. So here is my next one:

Windows 7 is marginally better than Vista, but it's still low-quality crap compared to Mac OS X. After Windows 7 is installed, it's downhill from there. It will deteriorate over time with the usual bit-rot problems that Microsoft customers are accustomed to.

7 posted on 10/22/2009 10:50:57 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X?

Toss them in the dumpster and upgrade to RenderMan, Maya and Final Cut Pro.

8 posted on 10/22/2009 10:53:22 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: montag813
Who cares how good Snow Leopard is? What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X? And don’t say “Boot camp” because that is useless for performance-level requirements.

Um, are you aware of what Boot Camp is? It's disk partitioning software and drivers. When booted in Windows, a Mac is a Windows PC, comparable to any other PC with the same components, only better designed and with cleaner drivers.

I'm not buying that an i7 iMac (coming soon) or an eight-core Nehalem Mac Pro aren't up to your "performance-level requirements."

9 posted on 10/22/2009 11:08:53 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: montag813
Who cares how good Snow Leopard is? What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X? And don’t say “Boot camp” because that is useless for performance-level requirements.

You don't know what you are talking about. Boot Camp boots the Mac as a Windows machine... it then IS a Windows computer, 100% of the speed. Quite a few computer PC centric reviewers have stated that the Macs run Windows better than dedicated Windows boxes.

Also, given that the Mac is the computer of choice for much of the Hollywood professionals, I sincerely doubt your assertion that the 3D, animation and video applications or their equivalent aren't available for the Mac.

10 posted on 10/22/2009 11:10:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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11 posted on 10/22/2009 11:31:51 PM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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Lots of mud slinging going to happen on this subject. My 2 cents is that 95% of my clients own only Windows machines. As a business man, I go where the action is.


12 posted on 10/23/2009 12:14:16 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: HAL9000
Windows 7 is marginally better than Vista, but it's still low-quality crap compared to Mac OS X.

Disagree with both parts of this sentence. Windows 7 is a huge upgrade to Vista. And while I own a MacBook Pro and enjoy using OS X quite a bit, Windows 7 is very comparable in terms of stability and usability (even eye-candy).
13 posted on 10/23/2009 12:35:14 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Windows 7 is a huge upgrade to Vista.

Well, Vista was a huge upgrade to XP. XP was an huge upgrade to 2000. 2000 upgraded NT, NT upgraded 98, and 98 upgraded 95. 95 was an upgrade to 3.1, which was an upgrade to MS-DOS. Ad nauseum. Every time they release an upgrade, they claim it is "as good as Apple" - but it never is.

Unfortunately, Microsoft is institutionally incapable of creating a truly great operating system. If they ever manage create one in the future, it won't be called "Windows".

I purchased my first Microsoft products in 1978. They had very good technology back then. I disassembled some of Bill Gates' code, and it was evident that he was a clever programmer. He had some wild tricks for fitting his code into a small memory space. That was the peak of Microsoft's technical quality, a long time ago when they handcrafted their code to make every byte count.

14 posted on 10/23/2009 1:20:04 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: montag813
Who cares how good Snow Leopard is? What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X? And don’t say “Boot camp” because that is useless for performance-level requirements.

I wonder how Pixar (CEO Steve Jobs) managed to develop all those 3D animated movies?


15 posted on 10/23/2009 4:55:56 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Swordmaker

The big problems with Windows have been malware — maybe 7 has finally fixed it and if so good for them — and DRM.


16 posted on 10/23/2009 6:01:29 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: Swordmaker
Also, given that the Mac is the computer of choice for much of the Hollywood professionals, I sincerely doubt your assertion that the 3D, animation and video applications or their equivalent aren't available for the Mac.

For the most part none of the major 3d films are done on either Macs OR PCs.

Also, boot camp is NOT 100% PC with greater performance. That is total nonsense. We have done weeks of testing on that. We do ads for TV and major campaigns. YOU don't know what you're talking about.

17 posted on 10/23/2009 7:22:45 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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I'm not buying that an i7 iMac (coming soon) or an eight-core Nehalem Mac Pro aren't up to your "performance-level requirements."

Sure...for twice the price. Why would I want that? Macs will never be price/performance competitive. I used them for over a decade. We can spank a Mac on every graphics, ram, disk spec and then some for far less.

18 posted on 10/23/2009 7:25:16 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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Toss them in the dumpster and upgrade to RenderMan, Maya and Final Cut Pro.

We use Maya on PC with various render engines, Modo and 3dsMax for strutural modeling (cityscape flybys, etc). Also Houdini and RealFlow (liquids). I am also an AfterEffects guy and always have been. Maximum control of every concievable detail. We use Edius Pro for edits and Fusion for post.

19 posted on 10/23/2009 7:30:09 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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I wonder how Pixar (CEO Steve Jobs) managed to develop all those 3D animated movies?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Pixar used custom Linux worstations running their insanely awesome Marionette with Renderman software to create Wall-E. Not Macs.

20 posted on 10/23/2009 7:39:48 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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