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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/21/2009 4:53:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

2 posted on 10/21/2009 4:55:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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“Brittan thinks neutrality of Italy is assured” ha.


4 posted on 10/21/2009 4:58:49 AM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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Thanks for all your efforts.


5 posted on 10/21/2009 5:01:34 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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Are these old articles available online? Or are you actually going in the library every day and scanning them?

Just wondering, since there was no link provided.


8 posted on 10/21/2009 5:08:27 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Something seemed familiar about today's headline. I found some similar ones:

9/20/39 - "HITLER TELLS ALLIES IT IS HIS PEACE OR A FINISH FIGHT"
10/7/39 - "HITLER DEMANDS HIS PEACE OR A WAR OF DESTRUCTION"
10/13/39 - "WAR IN EARNEST UNLESS U.S. ACTS, BERLIN SAYS"
10/21/39 - "BERLIN SAYS WAR IS ON TO THE FINISH"

Well, I'm glad we finally got that settled. I wonder if it is significant that "Berlin" has replaced "Hitler" as the proclaimer of doom.

16 posted on 10/21/2009 8:19:16 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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First Meeting of the Advisory Committee on Uranium

21 October 1939

Back on October 11th Alexander Sachs, a Wall Street economist and longtime friend of FDR got with Roosevelt to discuss the letter written by Albert Einstein back on August 2nd. With him he brought a copy of a lecture by Francis Aston from 1936 titled "Forty Years of Atomic Theory" that had been published in 1938 as part of the Background to Modern Science collection. Sachs read the entire lecture to Roosevelt with emphasis on the last sentences that read:

Personally I think there is no doubt that sub-atomic energy is available all around us, and that one day man will release and control its almost infinite power. we cannot prevent him from doing so and can only hope that he will not use it exclusively in blowing up his next door neighbor.

Roosevelt got the point and proposed a committee headed by Dr. Lyman J. Briggs who was at the time the director of the Bureau of Standards. Along with him he added Army representative Lt. Colonel Keith F. Adamson and Navy representative Cmdr. Gilbert C. Hoover. Both men were ordinance experts. This was the "Advisory Committee on Uranium" set up that FDR references in his reply to Einstein on 19 October.

Briggs set the first meeting of the committee on October 21 in Washington. Sach proposed that they also invite some of the emigres who mostly were scientists that had fled Europe due to Nazi pressure. Brigs invited Merle Tuve who couldn't make it and sent Richard Roberts in his place. Enrico Fermi was still holding a grudge against the Navy and refused to attend. He allowed Hungarian physicist Edward Teller to attend and speak on his behalf. Also invited was Leo Szilard who had convinced Einstein to write the August letter in the first place.

So at the October 21st meeting there was:

Briggs - Director of Advisory Committee on Uranium
Sachs - Wall Street economist and FDR adviser
Adamson - Army
Hoover - Navy

And the scientists:

Szilard
Wigner
Roberts
Teller

In this meeting Szilard discussed the possibility of a sustained chain reaction and the potential destructive power of an uncontrolled one. He estimated that a potential uranium bomber would yield an explosive equivalent of 20,000 tons of TNT.

Of those present Teller, Wigner and Sachs(oddly enough) supported Szilard's position on the potential destructive power of a Uranium bomb while Robers was skeptical that this had really been proven and both military attaches showed their own degree of doubt and even hostility.

Cmdr Hoover was first to pose the question of funds when he asked Szilard how much money he needed to prove the theory of sustained chain reactions. Teller was quick to answer telling Hoover that they would need $6000 to purchase the graphite (Szilard would follow up on the 26th requesting $33,000 to get the graphite and fund the experiment).

Adamson had expected the conversation to lead to money and had the ensuing sparing match is described by Szilard:

He [Adamson] told us that it was naive to believe that we could make a significant contribution to defense by creating a new weapon. He said that if a new weapon is created, it usually takes two wars before one can know whether the weapon is any good or not. Then he explained rather laboriously that it is in the end not weapons which win wars, but the morale of the troops. He went on in this vein for a long time until suddenly Wigner, the most polite of us, interrupted him. [Wigner] said in his high-pitched voice that it was very interesting for him to hear this. He always thought that weapons were very important and that this is what costs money, and this is why the Army needs such a large appropriation. But he was very interested to hear that he was wrong: it's not weapons but the morale which wins the wars. And if this is correct, perhaps one should take a second look at the budget of the Army, and maybe the budget could get cut.

At this Adamson snapped back "you'll get your money!"

This was the beginning of what would become the Manhattan project and the invention of the atomic bomb. $6000 dollars and a committee. At this point they still hadn't proven Fermi's theory for last January that a chain reaction could be sustained. I met Edward Teller at his home in Stanford in 1999. His mind was just as sharp in his last years as they must have been back then. I asked him a lot of questions that day but now that I'm older I wish I could go back to that day. I would have asked better questions than what I did.

Alot of this material is referenced from The Making of the Atomic Bomb - by Richard Rhodes

The two block quotes are from that book on pages 314 and 317 respectively.

17 posted on 10/21/2009 8:46:31 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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The Weekly Spectator denounced the lack of air attacks against Germany. That is interesting to note.


25 posted on 10/21/2009 12:41:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Where do you find this material? Thanks for your great posts.


38 posted on 10/21/2009 3:22:35 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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I just accidently came across this doc on google. I don't know who Col. Arthur Murray of London was. I don't think it is the dance studio guy. The link goes on for page after page and includes the 10/1/39 letter from Murray that FDR is responding to. Really interesting

FDR Letter to Arthur Murray-10/21/39

41 posted on 10/21/2009 3:55:43 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Interesting little note about Udet, as well.


43 posted on 10/21/2009 4:32:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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