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"I just want the kids to stay in school"
Mind Freed

Posted on 09/08/2009 1:49:03 PM PDT by Mind Freed

My friend argued with me that Obama just wanted to tell the kids to stay in school and treat others nicely, and listen to your teachers. Fine... there is nothing wrong with telling kids that... My problem is the one who is saying it. The drop out rate will not decrease because Obama said stay in school. It starts at home, with a solid foundation and parents who are involved. Both of my sons are great students and great kids, I believe it's because their mother and I do their homework with them every night, we talk to their teachers to ask what we can focus on at home to help them. We turn off the T.V. and video games at dinner time and have conversations with our kids. In essence, we still follow the conservative principles of family that this nation was built on. That's what will keep kids in school and produce functioning citizens. I will be damned if the (P)resident thinks I NEED HIM to tell my kids to stay in school! All that man is, is an accomplished liar, con artist, and thief. Is policies and political ideologies are the causes of deteriorating family values, and helping to increase the drop out rate. How many of our kids will be motivated to be CEO's when they realize how much they will be taxed for success? If Obama gets his socialist country, how many kids will want to be doctors and work for the government with all the government regulations. Want to grow up and own a car dealership? Want to grow up and be a banker? Want to be a nurse? Obama is taking the incentive out of striving for success, and these liberals want our children to take advice from him?


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoeducation; liar; obama; schoolspeech
I had to vent, and what better place then this...
1 posted on 09/08/2009 1:49:03 PM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: Mind Freed

I just want kids to challenge the status quo.

“Most” teachers are “the man” and their ideology
should be approached with skepticism and caution.

Don’t accept what they say until you have researched
it for yourself.

Question authority.

Challenge everything.

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How you liking this now you old throwback hippie
teachers?


2 posted on 09/08/2009 1:54:15 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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My daughter already knows she needs to stay in school to be successful & said she didn’t want to watch the speech lol.

Kids are smart; they know Obama is full of — nonsense.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 2:02:29 PM PDT by liberty_belle_76
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To: Mind Freed

We are in a war on two fronts, we are in a recession, we have bail-out dollars spent to support an auto industry that produces cars people do not want, and the financial industry that takes our taxdollars and gives out bonus’s with it. We have Katrina victims still demanding assistance, job loss at near historic proportions, China upset with the pending inflation that is about to hit ....

And President Zero wants to spend time talking to the kiddies? How about fixing the messes you’ve created?


4 posted on 09/08/2009 2:03:26 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Mind Freed

It would be great if all parents were like you. Your kids don’t need reinforcement from the president. A lot of kids do need reinforcement and they aren’t getting it from home.

His speech won’t do anything to fix the systemic flaws that lead to more and more kids not having parents there at all nevermind as attentive as you are. And in the long run probably won’t make a huge difference to any of the kids who need to hear the things he said from someone. Hopefully it does encourage at least some kids though.

I kind of get the outcry about the lesson plan was sent out, but not about the speech that was given. Ultimately if Obama wouldn’t try to get everyone to join his cult of personality he might find the outrage at him doing something like this. But what do I know Democrats didn’t like HW speaking to students either.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 2:10:33 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mind Freed

“I just want the kids to stay in school”

Of course you do. How else to indoctrinate them unless in government schools?


6 posted on 09/08/2009 2:14:06 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Mr. Blonde
A lot of kids do need reinforcement and they aren’t getting it from home.

There are plenty of adults in those school buildings who are getting paid to give them that reinforcement. If people in their lives can't get that message across, I seriously doubt that the President giving a boring speech will do it.

7 posted on 09/08/2009 2:14:50 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Mind Freed

I totally understand as I have been fuming over my idiot mother-in-law and sister-in-law sending me e-mails regarding this speech. They know my stand on these issues, but just couldn’t contain themselves from sending me e-mails stating that my concerns were “much ado about nothing” and “every child should see this speech.” Didn’t take much to make them compliant and they have totally forgotten that this was his re-write not his orginal due to public outrage. Grumble, grumble.....................


8 posted on 09/08/2009 2:14:54 PM PDT by maid of orleans
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To: Dianna

Maybe it won’t. It sure won’t hurt anything either. And let’s face it, he probably looks more like the ones who need the most reinforcement than a lot of the people teaching them in the schools.


9 posted on 09/08/2009 2:17:51 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mind Freed

george carlin once said, “if your child needs a role model to inspire him and you ain’t it, you are both scr*wed.” i do not need a political hack to tell my child to stay in school and get an education. i do that. and guess what? my kid is way smarter than me. he gets straight A’s and is in the academic honors program. he plays soccer,chess, and guitar. he is in the NJROTC program, and is involved with the Sons of the American Legion. He is polite and says things like “yes sir” and no ma’am”, and his teachers have all bragged on him being the nicest kid they had in class. I have never ever heard of a politician who inspires this behavior in a child. I know many parents who do.


10 posted on 09/08/2009 2:22:12 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: Mind Freed

Ah yes. 2 generations out from adults are stupid...not to be trusted...smart kids are nerds...being smart is dumb...

“Get rich or die tryin,’” right Fi’ty Cent?

The DL on drop outs........

http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/1HighSchoolDropout.cfm


11 posted on 09/08/2009 2:23:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Mind Freed

“I believe it’s because their mother and I do their homework with them every night,”

Very commendable to take an interest in the kids’ schooling, but when did homework become something that PARENTS had to do with their kids, I wonder?
When I was a kid, homework was something that was assigned to kids, and the kid was supposed to do the homework.
I could see occasionally going to a parent with a question or for help on a specific point, but why on earth should parents be expected to sit down and go over the homework with the kids? And a lot of parents not only do that, but get totally involved in major school projects — often, in effect, they are doing the kid’s job!
My parents made sure we had proper facilities to do it (a reasonably quiet place to work, and no interruptions) and by saw to it we did homewor before we did anything else (no TV, etc., until you finished!) but they did not do our homework WITH us. (Occasionally I remember my mom, at my request, doing a spelling drill with me.)


12 posted on 09/08/2009 2:30:14 PM PDT by EdJay
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To: EdJay; Mind Freed

I cannot remember a single instance where my parents
helped me with my homework. Well, OK... they gave up
the dining room table for my books and notes. That
was help I needed. I did not need them to do the work
for me.


13 posted on 09/08/2009 2:51:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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I should have been a little more clear about that. What we do is make sure that they do their homework first when they get home. IF, they have questions we help them, but we don't do it for them, we give them examples. For instance, if my son has to use his spelling words in a sentence but he doesn't how to use the word... First I'll have him look it up in a dictionary and tell me what it means, if he still needs help I'll give him an example sentence that he can't use for the assignment. After that he has to sit down and come up with his own sentence. I don't sit right next him every night and put my nose in what HE was assigned to do, I just make sure that when they are doing their home work I'm available to help.

My older son has gotten projects already from school also. He told me what he needed to build it and I made sure he had it... After that, I told him get to work. His mother and I never touched it... so I agree with what you said 100%.

14 posted on 09/08/2009 3:04:37 PM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: Mind Freed

Yup! When I was working with kids, many parents
were actually doing the homework for them. Four
hours a night was the average. No exaggeration.

My parents would give me spelling tests too. But
they never had to buy “project” material. That
was provided through tax dollars. What a concept.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 3:13:53 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Mind Freed

When I read the speech it was obvious he is targeting a slice of the American student body and not all of it. He is not talking to your child. Your child won’t be vulnerable to communism’s siren call as you interact with him/her and pass on your values and culture of individual freedom and responsibility. (Teach your kids from a civics book published before 1960 as an extra homework program.)

But the underclass - the part of the student body he is addressing - will look to uncle obama (uncle sam) for leadership and gifts just as a needy child is more at risk for manipulations of the child molestor.


16 posted on 09/08/2009 3:27:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Mind Freed
Does the US have a big dropout problem between Kindergarten and First Grade?

If so, the system is so broken I doubt even the Great Obama can fix it.

17 posted on 09/08/2009 3:36:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (War is fought by human beings. - Carl von Clausewitz in On War)
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To: Mind Freed

Obama has spoken—let it be done.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 3:37:16 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Mind Freed

The arrogance is evident in these facts:

1. Obama believes education and education policy is a central top-down mandate filled agenda originating in Washington, D.C.

2. Obama believes in an American presidency that holds as much power and sway over the nation as a Castro, a Chavez, a Mao or a Kim Il Jung;

3. and therefore American children should listen “because it is coming from their “leader”, the President;

4. In essence, Obama believes in his own self-importance.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 4:51:54 PM PDT by Wuli
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