Posted on 09/07/2009 6:35:38 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
Its been interesting as Ive read everyones comments from my post on Monday about the e-mail instructions I was sent by SIGG. The e-mail told me how to send in my SIGG bottle to get a replacement that was free from the lining that contains Bisephenal A (BPA).
I asked for your opinions on the e-mail (and thank you for the many opinions if you havent read the comments from my first post, you should), but I didnt give my own opinion.
Heres my opinion.
The e-mail reads like it was written by one of my boys trying to apologize because hes been told he needs to apologize but doesnt think he should have to. Instead of a genuine apology, my child will make it clear that the infraction is not his fault and furthermore makes it clear he thinks Im ridiculous for even expecting an apology.
The e-mail is defensive. It begins with the statement that the liners are non-leaching. It mentions later in the specific return instructions that You may choose to keep your current bottle as they have been proven not to leach. That statement is also found on the return label included in the e-mail. I feel like SIGG wants the post office to know that the person sending this package is overreacting.
Okay, I get this. They want to get the point across that they dont believe the old liners are a problem. If the e-mail had only contained that, along with the instructions for return, I might not have a problem. Its the last paragraph that I find problematic.
"As a person concerned with BPA, you may also want to know that it can also found in dental sealants, household appliances, children's toys, cell phones, protective coatings, flame retardants, eyeglass lenses, medical equipment, CDs, DVDs, consumer electronics, and canned food."
Really? This is where the e-mail fell strictly into a childs reasoning. Its like when I catch one of my children using a bad word. When confronted, he doesnt admit he is wrong. He proceeds to tell me about the bad word that came out of his brothers mouth when I wasnt in earshot. It also seems like the equivalent of everyone else is doing it. I was half tempted to shoot back an e-mail that said, If all of the companies that make those other products jumped off a bridge, would you do it to?
Finally, there was no signature with the e-mail no name or even a company logo to take responsibility. It ended abruptly after the last paragraph. If the e-mail had just been mailing instructions, that wouldnt have seemed odd. But since it read very much like a letter that was addressed to me personally with a Dear Robin, some sort of signature would have been appropriate.
Still, as annoying as the e-mail was, Im not judging the entire situation based on that e-mail. I remember reading in this 2008 Treehugger post (or one very similar to it but I know it was on Treehugger) that when asked about their liner, SIGG replied that they couldnt reveal what was in the liner because it was proprietary a trade secret if you will. The Treehugger writers conclusion was that SIGG did not deny BPA in their liner it could be there.
In that Treehugger post, its also mentioned that last year, SIGGs CEO Steve Wasik said, "Despite the scientific evidence that SIGG bottles are 100% safe, I understand the desire of some people to know more about the proprietary SIGG liner. As our Swiss supplier insists on protecting his formula & keeping it confidential, I have commenced the process of exploring new suppliers." So SIGG did reveal that they were changing their liners due to safety concerns at least a year ago.
I also remember something I learned many, many years ago (believe it or not from The Brady Bunch.) Its the Latin phrase caveat emptor. Translated it means let the buyer beware. I knew SIGG was not revealing what was in their liners, and I knew they never specifically denied having BPA in the liners at least nowhere that I had ever read. I asked for my SIGG bottle (it was a gift from my husband) with this knowledge. I liked the design. I chose the bottle. Caveat emptor.
Do I think SIGG went about informing the portion of the public that wanted to know specifically about the BPA in their liners in a good way? No. They did it poorly; they chose their words in the past carefully to skirt the issue, and now they are reaping the PR nightmare for it. They made poor choices when it came to transparency and those choices will have consequences. Many people will never trust SIGG again. There are people calling for boycotts. They certainly have a right to do that.
Me? Im going to turn my SIGG bottle in for a new one. Im not going to boycott. Will I buy SIGG again? I dont know. I have lots of metal bottles in my cabinet and only one SIGG. It wasnt my go-to brand. Like Ive said before several times, I just liked the design.
Now that youve had a few more days to let the SIGG news sink in, how are you feeling about it?
“Right now I am loving my current ba-ba which is a CamelBak biter.”
Inscrutable.
I don’t hunt for definitions of crap posts, it’s the posters responsibility to explain alphabet soup if they post it!
And no i’m not going to click on your damn site!
I reuse the aquafina bottle (the ones from 7/11 are thicker plastic) The Sigg is an aluminum bottle with a plastic lining to it.
It’s a fancy, expensive ‘sports bottle’ that pretenders wear on empty backpacks with climbing boots to stand out from the crowd of people in NFL jerseys eight sizes too big while they wait for their brats outside the megascreen matinee in the middle of the mall where every other person carries a guitar or a knock-off Louis Vitton man-bag.

Okay, now I have got to get me three or four and be cool.
$25 for a water bottle? That’s nuts. Along with the refilled plastic bottles, I do have some aluminum ones for camping. (Can boil creek water in it if you had to!)
You’re obviously a dumb@ss or why else would you not pay for bottled water even though the tap water in our country is tested, safe and just fine and dandy, . . . and for the most part, pretty dog gone inexpensive. You slug, you.
I don't buy water or drinks during my work day and water fountains aren't available to me and even if they were, I don't want to use a water fountain when I am thirsty because it is difficult to knock back a quart at a time from a water fountain or to use it while eating lunch in your vehicle, and it sure isn't there if you get caught in a three hour traffic jam in the summer.
I have to carry my tap drinking water in something and I prefer permanent stainless steel canteens (or bottles as we call them now) to glass jars or the old fashioned versions of the canteen.
My question is how are people getting by without one version or another of a canteen and which version is permanent, easy to clean, guaranteed not to leak and will not wear out and start releasing chemicals after a year or two of constant use and desert heat and sun?
LOL!

Okay, I had to look up SIGG bottles. What a scam they got going. The bottles are aluminum and go for about $22. My kid got a knockoff from somewhere. You can't put anything hot or cold in it because it's not insulated.
TAKE OFF EVERY ‘SIGG’.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOING.
MOVE ‘SIGG’.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE.
I hope SIGG is sad knowing their product is being misused in this manner. Certainly, a snail darter was killed somewhere during this event.
Note I used the word "participating", and not "winning", and that no where are the words "good shot", competent" or even "owns a shotgun". Still, it was a lot of fun.
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