Posted on 09/07/2009 4:48:57 PM PDT by Cindy
SNIPPET: "It was Hill who converted to Islam as a young U.S. Army paratrooper stationed in Beirut in 1958. It was Hill who learned fluent Arabic. It was Hill who joined the Mujahedeen Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan and fought the Soviet invasion there in the 1980s. It was Hill who personally met Osama bin Laden. It was Hill who used information from Islamic extremists to warn Rescorla that terrorists would use the underground parking garage for a car bomb attack on the World Trade Center. It was Hill who asked the U.S. government to assist him in an assassination attempt on bin Laden in 1998 (the request was rejected). And it was Hill who warned the FBI just weeks before Sept. 11, 2001, that his Mideast contacts told him "something big" was about to happen in the United States, in New York, Washington, D.C., or Philadelphia — maybe all three.
Through the Internet I managed to contact Hill at his home in Florida. He's 71 now. I asked him if his reputation as a terrorism prognosticator without parallel has changed his life much.
"Oh, that blew over pretty fast," he said. "Most of the people even in my hometown don't know any of that stuff."
He didn't want to talk about the past. He wanted to talk about the future.
The very near future.
The man who predicted 9/11 is worried that its sequel is imminent.
"Muslims that I talk to say things like, 'America thinks they're safe now. They've forgotten about 9/11. But watch, Daniel. Stay near your TV. It's going to be bigger than 9/11,' " he said."
Please read the entire article here: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705328180/Is-another-911-set-to-unfold.html
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
“I’ve always found that . . . factoid . . .more than a little silly.
It ASSUMES THAT: 1. The oil rich Islamists
COULD NOT BUY whatever updated materials and even improved technology they wanted.”
Then way doesn’t Iran or Syria do that?
Hank
POWER GRAB INDEED . . . TO PUT IT very mildly.
Read post 106
Why?
ALL THE PLAYERS . . . whether Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, London, Moscow, Beijing, D.C. . . . New York, . . . are all mere puzzle pieces on the globalist gameboard. And satan has his fists up all their ____s manipulating his puppets most skillfully.
1. They are being orchestrated and scheduled literally from hell via the globalist elites.
2. It’s not QUITE on their schedule, precisely, just yet.
3. God also has HIS own schedule as to what HE allows when.
He says... The nukes, he said, will be detonated over New York, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Miami, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
Then you asked ...
What is your perspective on this?
Well, there are several different things to say about this. First of all, I don't know how "plugged in" he is, so he may be wrong, in this one particular instance. And talking about the suitcase nukes, I've seen other reports that say that these supposedly stolen Russian suitcase nukes would be non-functional by now, unless they had been continuously maintained all this time and that the terrorist wouldn't have the capability to do so. And then I've heard that this original story was suspect and maybe false and that there were never any missing Russian suitcase nukes, in the first place.
BUT, having said that, I don't think there is any doubt that the Islamic terrorists do wish to inflict some heavy damage on the U.S. and make the next "big attack" to be worse than the one on 9/11. I don't doubt that aspect of it, at all.
Furthermore, our government officials, from the President one down the line, in the past (back during the Bush Administration, especially) have said that the issue is not a question of whether such a major and future attack will occur. They have said it's a certainty another major terrorist attack will happen. Repeatedly we've been told, throughout the Bush Administration that it will happen, another major atttack on the level of 9/11. It's only a question of when it's going to happen. That's what we're looking at.
Whether it's nukes or biological weapons, or perhaps, even a series of bombings, across the country, inflicting heavy damage on infrastructure and/or population areas -- the fact of the matter is that it will happen, sooner or later.
So, get ready for it, because it could be coming to a neighborhood near you. If not your own neighborhood, it will drastically change life in the United States, that's for sure.
We've only seen the "opening salvos" of the "War on the West" from Islam. It's still coming and it's going to get worse. And also, that's why we're going to have more government control coming up in our country, because people will not want this kind of terrorist attack happening again (after another one happens) and they will say, "Do something about it!" and the government will, which will result in the clamping down on civil liberties and trading off freedom for safety. That's coming, so that's another thing I say, "Get ready for it..."
WELL PUT.
98% it won’t happen - 2% it could.
Well..., our government officials, at several different levels of government and in different agencies, during the Bush Administration, have consistently told us that it is not a question of "IF" another major terrorist attack will occur -- but rather -- it is a question of "WHEN".
They have actually used the word that it's a certainty that it will happen (i.e., another major attack on the level of another 9/11 level of attack, although not the same style, as in airplanes).
Our government has been getting ready for this since the Bush Administration and they had been planning on setting up population relocation centers, during the Bush Administration, to handle the evacuation of major population areas in the event of such a major terrorist attack. That's what this is all about -- in terms of the preparations that the government has been making in these resettlement/relocation centers. It's for the event of another major terrorist attack that they say is certain. They just don't know when.
So, when you say "98% it won't happen" -- that's probably true on any given day itself -- but it's not true -- overall. In other words, it might not happen on a particular day, but it's 100% certain it will happen at some time.
want to get an expiration date on this prediction (open-ended guesses are useless).
See post #125 and #127. The government and various officials, from the Bush Administration have told us it's a 100% certainty that we're going to have another attack that is on the level of a 9/11 attack. It's only a question of when.
That's the predication I would concentrate on...
EXCELLENT POINT, OF COURSE.
. . . have the naysayers gone out to play?
Sooo....why is this man still around freely walking the streets?
Thanks for the ping!
From this thread's prediction I gather the prediction is the incident will happen before Ramadan is over. If left open-ended, it's just another of an endless series of empty claims.
Sooo....why is this man still around freely walking the streets?
It sounds like you need some background on Daniel J. Hill... :-)
Daniel J. Hill (born 1938 in Oak Park, Illinois) joined the United States Army at the age of 15, by lying about his age. He eventually became a Special Forces paratrooper and served in Germany, where he participated in missions during the Hungarian Revolution and the struggle for control of Lebanon in 1958.
Following his tour in Germany, he was selected for Ranger school at Fort Benning, where he was asked to return as an instructor. In 1960 he was assigned to infiltrate the Katanga insurrection in the Congo where he met his lifelong friend, Rick Rescorla.
Hill served as a lieutenant during his first tour in Vietnam and a captain during his second. After his first tour, he was awarded the Silver Star for heroism at Trung Luong, five Bronze Stars, the Purple Heart, the Army Commendation Medal, and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Palm Leaf.
After retiring from the US Army, he converted to Islam and spent time fighting with the Mujahideen against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.
In the meantime, Rescorla had become Director of Security for Dean Witter Securities (later merged with Morgan Stanley), which occupied a number of floors in the World Trade Center. Rescorla had become increasingly concerned about the potential for a terrorist attack against the center and in 1990 hired Hill to provide an assessment of the building's vulnerabilities. Hill singled out the basement parking garage as the obvious point for a car-bomb attack, telling Rescorla that if he were a terrorist he would fill a truck with ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel and detonate it in the underground parking garage. Rescorla reported these findings to the New York Port Authority and the New York Police Department but received no official response.
In 1993 the World Trade Center bombing took place in almost exactly the manner Hill had predicted.
Following the bombing, Rescorla and Hill wrote a report, which warned that the next logical step would be a suicide terrorist flying a plane into the building.
In 1998 Hill attempted to interest the FBI in a plan to assassinate Osama bin Laden. He proposed working with his Afghani contacts to ambush bin Laden as he drove between Kandahar and Kabul, but the plan was rejected, although Hill's associates in Afghanistan could do the actual attack if they had transport and technical assistance from the U.S. In 2001, his contacts told him that a major attack against the US was imminent, and he attempted to revive the plan; but he was again turned down by the FBI. He lost his life-long friend, Rick Rescorla, in the 9/11 attack.
We’ve been hearing assurance of another attack looming since 9/12. Yes, something WILL happen SOMEDAY, but as time passes it is less likely part of this meme and more part of a another new one.
Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and bestselling author Stewart (Den of Thieves) aims to capture the enormity of the World Trade Center attack by retracing one of the lives lost in the disaster: that of Rick Rescorla, head of security for Morgan Stanley. From the late 1980s on, Rescorla tried to warn Port Authority officials that the World Trade Center was an easy target for terrorists. On September 11, after safely evacuating the Morgan Stanley offices in the south tower (he kept people calm by singing into his megaphone), Rescorla went back into the building minutes before it collapsed to search for stragglers. This wasn't his first selfless act of bravery: a Vietnam veteran, Rescorla won a Silver Star and other medals for his role in the Ia Drang valley an important American victory, but one whose devastating losses turned Rescorla against the war. Piecing together the recollections of, among others, Rescorla's widow, Susan, his best friend and fellow soldier, Daniel Hill, to narrate Rescorla's life story, Stewart also weaves in Susan's, and describes the Rescorlas' blissful mid-life relationship, a second marriage for both. Stewart's narrative is fast-paced, fluid and impressively detailed, though not without cliches. It's an absorbing and at times inspiring profile in courage, yet the book has the feel of an extended magazine piece.
We’ve been hearing assurance of another attack looming since 9/12. Yes, something WILL happen SOMEDAY, but as time passes it is less likely part of this meme and more part of a another new one.
The more time that passes, since 9/11, the more likely the major terrorist attack is. Thus, we don't get "further away" from a major attack, we get closer and closer to that major terrorist attack -- every day that passes by.
The ironic thing about the time passing by since 9/11 is that the general public feels more at ease, while the real situation, is that the major terrorist attack is actually more imminent than it ever was before.
Does Al Qaeda have nuclear capability? If not, is it on the verge of acquiring it? What dangers do we face in this context? Is a jihadist WMD attack on U.S. territory an inevitability? What can we do to prevent this horror?
To discuss this issue with us today, Frontpage Symposium has assembled a distinguished panel of experts. Our guests are:
David Dastych, international journalist for over 40 years, now operating his own media agency in Poland. A former Polish covert intelligence agent, he joined the CIA in South Vietnam (1973-1987). Jailed in Poland for his work against the USSR, the Warsaw Pact and communist interests (1987-1990), he was given an eight 8 years' sentence, but communism collapsed in 1989 and he was released. He monitored illegal nuclear trades for an Israeli organization from 1992-1994.
Hamid Mir, a Pakistani journalist who has more than 18 years experience in covering conflicts and wars in Afghanistan, Kashmir, Bosnia, Chechnya, Sri Lanka, Iraq and Lebanon. He has interviewed Osama bin Laden three times. He is an expert on Al Qaeda's nuclear ambitions and has travelled to Russia, Uzbekistan, Iran and Syria in his research work. He is currently working with Geo TV in Islamabad and writing for Jang Group of Newspapers.
Paul Williams, a journalist and the author of The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime, and the Coming Apocalypse; The Vatican Exposed: Money, Murder, and the Mafia; and Osama's Revenge: The Next 9/11—What the Media and the Government Haven't Told You. He has served as a consultant for the FBI, as editor and publisher of the Metro in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and as an adjunct professor of humanities at the University of Scranton.
and
Harvey W. Kushner, Ph.D., the chair at a major university department of criminal justice. He advises and trains a number of federal agencies and appears regularly in the media. Kushner is a contributing editor for FamilySecurityMatter.org. He is the author of many books on terrorism, including the award-winning Encyclopaedia of Terrorism and the widely quoted Holy War on the Home Front: The Secret Islamic Terror Network in the United States.
FP: David Dastych, Harvey W. Kushner, Paul Williams, and Hamid Mir, welcome to Frontpage Symposium.
Paul Williams, let’s begin with you.
What are the dangers we face right now in terms of a WMD attack by Al Qaeda or another Islamist entity?
Williams: The danger is very real. Accounts of the al Qaeda nukes first appeared in such reputable newspapers as The Jerusalem Report and The London Times, and Arabic magazines, including al-Watan al-Arabi and al-Majallah. These sources verified from British, Israeli, and Russian intelligence sources that bin Laden had purchased tactical nuclear weapons from the Chechen Mafia in 1996.
In subsequent years, the foreign press and intelligence sources, including the CIA, have been able to verify additional sales of off-the-shelf nukes and nuclear materials (highly enriched uranium and plutonium) from the former Soviet Union to al-Qaeda. The sellers included not only by the Chechens but also the Russian Mafia and black-marker arms-dealers, such as Semion Mogilevic from the Ukraine. Such information can be obtained by any journalist with a telephone, a computer, and a library card.
These sales to al-Qaeda have been verified by a host of weapons inspectors, including Hans Blix, former director general of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency. They were even verified by bin Laden and al-Zawahiri in their pronouncements that they have obtained a small arsenal of nuclear weapons from black-market sources.
But these sales are not the scary part. That comes from the ties between bin Laden and Dr. A. Q. Khan and the fact that over 20 nuclear scientists and technicians from Khan's research laboratories in Pakistan worked with al-Qaeda on a regular basis to maintain and modify the weapons that had been purchased and to develop other weapons, including highly portable "bespoke nukes."
Dr. Mahmood and Dr. Majeed, two of the leading officials at the Khan facility, confessed to CIA and ISI interrogators that they participated in al-Qaeda's nuclear projects. The fact that the Chechens possessed the nukes should be no surprise to any reporter or investigator. In 1995, the Chechens under Com. Shamail Basayev planted a radiological bomb in Izmailovsky Park near Moscow. The bomb was made of cesium-137, and, if detonated, would have killed thousands of Russians. This incident represented the first case of a nuke to be deployed as a weapon of terror. Later that same year, Dzokhar Dudayev, the leader of the Chechen Mafia, offered to sell his collection of nuclear weapons to the United States in exchange for U. S. recognition of Chechnya's independence. The Clinton Administration declined and so the weapons were sold to al-Qaeda.
More importantly, there is empirical proof that al-Qaeda possesses nukes. In 2000, British agents posed as recruits from a London mosque to infiltrate al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. In Herat, they saw nuclear weapons being manufactured. Similarly, an al-Qaeda operative was arrested while crossing the Allenby Bridge toward the checkpoint at Ramallah in Israel in a rusty old Volkswagen van. Within the van, Mossad discovered a bomb which turned out to be a highly sophisticated plutonium-implosion device with an explosive yield of 10 kilotons (equivalent to the bomb dropped on Hiroshima). There are more examples of tangible proof, including the canister of uranium 238 that U.S. military officials discovered in a lead canister in Kandahar at the outset of Operation Enduring Freedom.
Few military and intelligence officials question bin Laden's ability to launch his plan for the American Hiroshima. Gen. Eugene Habiger, former Executive Chief of Strategic Weapons at the Pentagon, said that an event of nuclear mega-terrorism on U. S. soil is "not a matter of if, but when." During the 2004 presidential debates, President Bush and Sen. Kerry said that nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists represent the greatest danger facing the American people, while Vice President Cheney, on the campaign trail, warned that a nuclear attack by al-Qaeda appears imminent. Before leaving office, Attorney General John Ashcroft and Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge both voiced that belief that al-Qaeda's plan to nuke cities throughout the country soon might come to fruition.
From the private sector, Warren Buffet, who establishes odds against cataclysmic events for major insurance companies, concluded that an imminent nuclear nightmare within the United States is "virtually a certainty." From the academic community, Dr. Graham Allison, director of Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said: "Is nuclear mega-terrorism inevitable? Harvard professors are known for being subtle or ambiguous, but I'll try to the clear. 'Is the worst yet to come?' My answer: Bet on it. Yes." Finally, from the mainstream media, Bill Keller, editor of The New York Times, concluded that the only reason for thinking a nuclear attack won't happen is because "it hasn't happened yet," adding that such reasoning represents "terrible logic." And so, the message has been delivered but few are listening, and the threat is real but precious little is being done to avert it.
Kushner: Dr. Williams is on point. He carefully describes why we should take measures to deal with a potential American Hiroshima. Thinking about the unthinkable is necessary given the mindset of our enemy—radical Islam.
Dr. Williams is also on point when he concludes that “precious little is being done to avert” an American Hiroshima. We are more than five years past the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and millions of steel-frame ocean-going containers enter our port without inspection. These 20- and 40-foot containers are crammed with everything from furniture to parts for General Motors, and they can weigh as much as 30 tons each. Each one has a potential to contain a weapon of mass destruction that could be detonated when the ship reaches an American port or offloaded and transported to be detonated in one of our major cities.
Customs and Border protection has stepped up inspections of incoming containers—from 2 percent to approximately 4 percent of the total. Four percent of 8 million means 320,000 get inspected—and 7,680,000 do not. Government officials argue that they look at 100 percent of those that are high risk.
That is not a comforting thought when you consider that terrorists have already used such containers for transport. In 1998, an al Qaeda vessel transported explosives into Mombassa that were used in the East African embassy bombings. And in October 2001, a container headed for Toronto was opened during a stop in Italy. Authorities found inside a suspected al Qaeda member who fitted the liveable container forged documents, electronics equipment, and blueprints and floor plans or a number of facilities throughout North America.
In 2003, Undersecretary for DHS Asa Hutchinson told Congress, “If terrorists used a sea container to conceal a weapon of mass destruction and detonated it on arrival at a port, the impact on global trade and the global economy could be immediate and devastating—all nations would be affected.”
Yes, Dr. Williams is on point—we are doing precious little to counter the threat of an American Hiroshima.
Dastych: Thank you for inviting me to this panel. I happen to know and to work closely with Mr. Mir and Dr. Williams, and I know about Dr. Kushner's achievements. To me a nuclear threat to the United States, posed by al Qaeda, is real. The “American Hiroshima” plan, conceived by Osama bin Laden, is at least 10 years old. The information, summarized here by Dr. Williams, is well documented in several of his books.
I have only one remark: Dzokhar Dudaev, before he was killed by a Russian missile, was President of Islamist Chechnya, and before he was a commander of a squadron of Soviet nuclear-bomber planes and a GRU agent. His offer to sell tactical nukes to the U.S. had a political purpose, but President Clinton had no intention to recognize free Chechnya. There were other means to purchase Dudaev’s nukes, and not to provoke Russia.
In the 1990’s, I had a chance to follow some illegal nuclear deals between Russia (and other post-Soviet states) and other countries, seeking nuclear materials or weapons. I must say that most of these deals were controlled by the Russian special services, the GRU (Military Intelligence) in particular.
Osama bin Laden is not a day-dreamer. He made all possible efforts to obtain nuclear materials and tactical weapons, and to hire Russian and other scientists and technicians to maintain and develop his “small nuclear arsenal”.
The most dangerous connection is not between al Qaeda and the Chechen, or other mafias, but between al Qaeda and the former (or current) members of the Russian Intelligence. And this connection is an established fact, right on American soil. If the Russian Government wanted to convince the U.S. Government of their clean and non-hostile intentions, let them expose the locations of the KGB and GRU nuclear demolition charges, hidden on the territory of the United States. This act could be a great help to the American anti-terrorist activity, and to the protection of the American people.
FP: The Russians have nuclear demolition charges hidden on U.S. territory? What does this mean exactly? Some critics would say that this is just a pie-in-the-sky scare tactic and there is no evidence of this of any kind.
Hamid Mir what are your thoughts about this allegation and possibility?
Mir: Thank you for inviting me to this discussion. I came to know about the nuclear ambitions of Al Qaeda in 1998 when I interviewed Osama bin Ladin the second time in Afghanistan. One ex-Soviet scientist travelled with me from the Pakistani border to Kandhar. Al Qaeda operatives told me that he was looking after their nuclear program. I laughed at their claims. Then I asked Osama about his nuclear ambitions, but he ignored my question at that time. I asked my question again in November 2001 and at that time Osama confirmed that he had nukes.
In the next few years, I came to know that Al Qaeda had a big brigade of nuclear and chemical experts who conducted a dirty bomb test in the mountains of Kunar in 2000. Another Al Qaeda operative, Abu Hamza Al Jazeeri confirmed to me in Afghanistan in 2005 that Al Qaeda had links with Soviet nuclear experts. He visited Ukraine many times between 1995 and 1998 to negotiate with a nuclear scientist. Abu Hamza said that Osama sent special envoys to Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan to contact ex-Soviet agents for their WMD's hidden in Western countries. I think these links are not sponsored by the Russian government; they are private links.
Nobody should underestimate the nuclear threat of Al Qaeda. This threat is not serious only for USA but to all the members of international coalition against terrorism. Osama determined to organize another attack bigger than 9/11.He will try his best to break his own record made on 9/11.
[ ... ]
THANKS
VERY SOBERING.
Your response Mr Kerchief?
Of note, the quoted article starts with:
October 27, 2006 ... Just recently, an al-Qaeda field commander in Afghanistan called for Muslims to leave the U.S.
... and nothing has happened for three years. Anyone call these guys on the claims?
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