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1 posted on 07/30/2009 11:59:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Microsoft CEO — Windows 7 PCs cooler than Apple—PING!


Xmas PCs Cooler than Macs? Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 07/31/2009 12:02:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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“Ballmer also released the latest data on Windows 7: 8 million copies of the release candidate have been downloaded; half of IT managers plan to upgrade to Windows 7 ‘as soon as it’s available’; and 80 per cent intend to move within 30 months.”

Wow, Vista really must suck with those numbers.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 12:03:03 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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Given Microsoft's track record, I will stick with Mac.

I know silly me!

4 posted on 07/31/2009 12:07:45 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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Gosh, Swordmaker!

Maybe we oughta sell our Macs quick before Windows 7 makes them totally obsolete and all we can do is use them for door stoppers.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 12:16:46 AM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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He also described Apple's impact on Microsoft sales this year as ‘a rounding error’, saying that; “Apple's share globally costs us nothing...
“Hopefully we will take share back from Apple,” said Ballmer, “But they sell only about 10 million computers globally so it's a limited opportunity.”

True. Even if Microsoft grabbed all the Apple mac sales every year, it'd only about to about $500 million extra revenue for Microsoft per year, which isn't that much when compared to Microsoft last 12 months revenues that came to approx $60 Billion. This is not so much about grabbing share from Apple, it's about not losing Windows PC sales to the mac.

We don't believe in coming to market like Apple - high margin, high quality, high price. We believe in high volume and low price,”

Shoulda said, “high volume, high quality and low prices for Windows PC’s..”

Investors are pushing us to spend more money on this marketing.”

Question is, why the heck did it take Microsoft so long before running attack ads against Apple, after Apple had been running attack ads Against Windows for to the tune of 7 years, with no reply from Microsoft?

Ballmer also released the latest data on Windows 7: 8 million copies of the release candidate have been downloaded; half of IT managers plan to upgrade to Windows 7 ‘as soon as it's available’; and 80 per cent intend to move within 30 months”

Good, good. But ummm..as an investor, I'd be happy to know total pre-order figures for Win 7 so far in retail as well. I know it's high, but just how high?

We did a programme to cut the price of Windows in emerging markets. The theory was that lower prices would lead to higher attach rates and higher revenues. That theory was wrong, so for Windows 7 we'll readjust those prices north.”

Bad idea. Adjust the prices even lower south for a lower powered version of Win 7 for the much poorer developing countries.

8 posted on 07/31/2009 12:37:11 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Those that stayed with XP will be upgrading with Windows 7. Microsoft will be posting some incredible numbers in the next year. Apple is going to be savaged in the next 12 months when it comes to market share.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 1:01:26 AM PDT by microgood
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13 posted on 07/31/2009 1:12:48 AM PDT by South40 (Islam has a long tradition of tolerance. ~Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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I have Vista on my new machine and it’s not outrageously bad. So far only 2 blue screens have shown. My other machines run XP and they’re rock solid. I will be upgrading to 7 on the new machine though.


14 posted on 07/31/2009 1:15:21 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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18-24 year olds are often naive and stupid.

Ballmer thinks everything microsquish does is awesome.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 1:49:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Out of curiosity, I upgraded a spare laptop to Windows 7RC. It’s an older Compaq with a single AMD Turion processor and 1GB of ram. Previously the machine had been running Vista Home Premium.

The upgrade went off without a hitch and with little interaction from me. The machine now runs noticeably faster, boots faster, shuts down faster. I don’t use the machine alot, mainly for coms, but it’s on 24/7 and has yet to crash or miss a beat. This wasn’t the case when it was running Vista.

The 7 interface is nice and clean, and more intuitive than its predecessor. I like it. Microsoft has a winner here.

On the other hand, I just downgraded my main laptop; a dual-core AMD HP with 2GB of RAM, to XPSP3. It now runs way faster than it did under Vista and I find it easier to use too. Sure, I lost the eye-candy but I’ll take performance over eye-candy any day. And I didn’t have to tweak XP to avoid those dumbass UAC prompts. Once 7 is released, and the price of the software comes down, I’ll probably set this machine up as dual boot.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 2:17:02 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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My 2 cents. I bought this puter a year ago, it has vista and I have detested every day I have used it. At the time, it had the most RAM, so it was not a question of going cheap. My most favoritist error.. “not Responding”. Drives me nuts. Never again will I own another MS product. I am going Mac this year. There was that one upgrade that took me offline until I could restore as well. Not another dime for MS OS, ever.


19 posted on 07/31/2009 2:28:52 AM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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Microsoft CEO says new PC designs cooler than Apple

Cooler? So he uses a generic word to describe his company's latest product and he thinks that's going to impress people? Hey everybody, my left foot is cooler than my right foot! Yippee!

25 posted on 07/31/2009 3:03:35 AM PDT by Isabel C.
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Hype, hype, hype.

I’ll never forget that Windows 95 launch. Remember the guy who was staggering out of the computer store with a stack of 12 copies of the OS?

He was going to make a fortune scalping them, he said.

Microsoft, thy name is Hype.


26 posted on 07/31/2009 3:36:23 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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I’m wondering how much of a problem there will be with Windows XP files and programs running on Win 7. When I bought a new XP laptop years ago I encountered a lot of problems - some transferred files from 98 wouldn’t run at all and others (Word 97 and PhotoShop 1.0) had problems. I’m thinking of buying a new laptop in the next year so it will probably come with Win 7.


27 posted on 07/31/2009 4:02:22 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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I have yet to purchase a mac. I want to, I really really want to. But the way we use computers in my house doesn’t justify the extra expense.

I’m comfortable with all the flavors of windows, various Linux distros, but the primary mission of computers in my house is internet, skype, gaming, and some document work here and there. The far less expensive windows machines do all that and more, and if something ever does go wrong, I can fix it. With Vista and W7 rc’s and XP, we rarely have anything go wrong that isn’t hardware related, like not enough memory or processor.

Meanwhile, my next door neighbor cannot keep a computer going. I finally found them a refurbished HP quad-core that runs Vista, and I’m going to leave it on. IMO, (7 of 9 voice:) Vista is...adequate. (/7 of 9) It has run solidly on MY HP quad-core machines, both refurbs. So I’m pretty comfortable letting the machine killing neighbors loose with it. But hey, I pointed them in the direction of Macintosh computers a long time ago and told them to buy one. They did look, but balked at the price.

If mac would cut their prices down somehow, I’d be a mac owner. As it stands, they’re just not cost efficient for my uses. Darn it.


28 posted on 07/31/2009 4:42:33 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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Ballmer always comes off like a buffoon but he is right here. Windows 7 looks great and works great and should put Apple on the defensive

I have pre-ordered a few Win7 upgrade editions but for now I am using the Win7 what I got from rapidshare .... you can test drive Win7 for 120 days by rearming four times. The torrents are a bit slow but if you have a very good high speed connection it will download for you

My DSL is slow due to to phone line limitations so rapidshare made more sense. Anyone very interested in details can freepmail me


31 posted on 07/31/2009 5:00:33 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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I had to buy a cheap HP that has Vista last month when my trusty XP puter had a glitch, I am using it now but I have cut off its balls, it has no animation, no Windows update cause it just creates more problems and have basically turned it back into a version of an XP.

I neutered Vista, it still tries to cancel most applications because it has such a high security paranoia, I swear its like Obama, it refuses to allow me to view its history and how to see if it right or wrong, weird.


32 posted on 07/31/2009 5:04:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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Wife continues to use XP pro on here machine because of all the apps she is comfy with and depends on work for her, most of the time. She won’t be upgrading to Windows 7, however. She doesn’t want to fool with new drivers and knows XP upside down and sideways.

I will keep XP on my PC for the 1 music related program I have to use in creating drum tracks. This accounts for less than 2% of my computer use.

Use my Macbook for everything else and love it. I would love to get a MBP but since the Macbook handles everything I throw at it, I can’t justify the expense. The Macbook just rocks!


33 posted on 07/31/2009 5:17:52 AM PDT by TheStickman
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claiming that three times as many 18-24 year olds now think that Microsoft represents better value than Apple

From the demographic that gave us Obonga.................

46 posted on 07/31/2009 6:36:24 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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"Steve Ballmer promised Windows 7 PCs that would 'overturn the conventional wisdom that Apple has the coolest hardware'."

Microsoft makes only software -- but promises cooler hardware...

The above is like an engine maker saying,

"We're coming out with an improved engine that will fit right into existing cars. In the future, cars that are made using it will be cooler than competitors' cars."

Something is delusional about that statement: Microsoft does not control the design of computer hardware that uses its OS offerings. Apple, OTOH, does.

Ballmer is just as believable a huckster as Øbama...

48 posted on 07/31/2009 7:15:51 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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