Posted on 07/29/2009 10:42:06 PM PDT by MissTickly
This is in follow-up to my post on Tuesday: "The Day I asked a question and got the MOTHER of all answers"
The implications of the following account is that the President's REAL NAME did not appear on any ballot, in any state.
That's just one of MANY implications. Let me preface by saying an AMENDED birth record could indicate that the President was adopted by either Lolo Soetoro and/or His grandparents, the Dunhams.
My story:
I have serious reasons to believe that Janice Okubo and/or Director Fukino, Department of Health in Hawaii are under duress. Something is preventing Director Fukino from making statements that she has the statutory authority to make.
And my story coincides with the recent revelation that the President is a Natural Born Citizen and born in Hawaii, all along.
On Monday, on a whim I decided to try my hand at a question for Ms. Okubo, Communications Director for the Department that holds the President’s vital records.
In a nutshell, this is what I asked her:
–Ms. Okubo–
If the Director made this statement:
““Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures… ”
…she has the statutory authority to answer this question:
“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”
Please reply with her answer.
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You see, they have the same statutory authority over an Amended Original Birth Certificate that they have over an (unamended) Original Birth Certificate.
No one has to attest to an Amended Original Birth Certificate’s existence. By virtue of STATUTORY AUTHORITY she can make this statement, AND she clearly says so.
But, to my surprise, at 11:47 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2009 I got the press release in answer to my question with the recent revelations and now the words ‘VITAL RECORDS’ are referenced.
Now, taken at face value, the press release seems to affirm the question I asked, but I wanted clarity. So I asked specifically if the Director could make a statement that she has the STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO MAKE:
“As Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, I have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
But I got this in return: “The director has nothing further to add to her statements.”
More than once. I even asked if she can make the statement if she was compelled to. Nothing.
I let Ms. Okubo know that I fear something is preventing them from making statements they have the authority to make. And told her I was compelled to tell someone.
Not that anyone will care, but I have alerted the media in detail.
I have the emails to corroborate.
I am VERY concerned.
I don’t, I kinda DO blame them for that.
Watching that movie the Patriot... seeing regular people just living thier lives but got fed up with the higher ups acting as if they were just a bunch of idiots...
Well, they risked their LIVES for our freedom. A government employee will let the country go down the crapper just to save their JOB?
I do not believe so. If his grandparents adopted him after he returned to Hawaii in 1971, Barack Obama would still have to be naturalized when he reached age 18.
Barack Obama claims that his father registered his birth with British authorities so he was a British subject. Later his father also registered him as a Kenyan citizen upon Kenya’s independence. Meanwhile, his mother married Lolo Soetoro who adopted him and the family moved to Indonesia where Barack, now Barry Soetoro, was registered in school as Muslim and an Indonesian citizen.
Britain and the U.S. recognize dual citizenship; Indonesia does not. Somehow Barry Soetoro travled between Indonesia and Hawaii, most likely with an Indonesian passport. So this kid was carrying around a load of citizenships.
One thing I keep seeing when researching this stuff: if you want to reaffirm your U.S. citizenship after carrying dual citizenships as a child, you must naturalize at or after age 18.
Obama never did so. So that is why I believe he is still Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen.
Satin Doll, I have the exact same theory, always have. Every detail of my theory is the same as yours. He is Lolo’s adopted son.
Evidently, we’ve studied from the same bloggers (expat).
But that doesn’t fit with the NBC stuff IF THAT’S TRUE. And so I have to consider other things in case the officials in Hawaii are telling the truth.
Duress?
Yeah, I suppose it does drag you down if you have to knowingly lie on a daily basis.
Perhaps, but I am not convinced of that. They are wordsmiths in Hawaii, and ever so careful when they answer a question.
If you were writing them like me, you would know that.
I am not convinced they are lying about a thing.
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen..."
I can understand asking about the criteria for natural born, but she is pretty clear about him being born in Hawaii (although not specific to location).
Have you ever been to Leo Donofrio’s site?
Not for me.
I now believe it’s possible his REAL father (NOT Obama Sr.) was an American Citizen at the time of his birth.
“If this is true, the same can be said of McCain.”
Absolutely correct.
So what! Show the birth certificate. I dont want to see certifications of people SAYING that they saw the certificate. I want to see the certificate itself.
Of course! Love especially his piece on Obama’s Twin. Fiction I know, but it was creepy.
And his other stuff and work is good, too! I’ll let Leo speak on Constitutional Law, it’s not my area of expertise!
Right now he has items up that refer directly to what you’re doing.
Here’s the link: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
You don’t have a “tangible interest” in obtaining his vital records, so according to Hawaii Statutes only Obama can show us his BC.
We have to work with what we got.
That’s fine, keep asking, I am agnostic. I just wanted to know what people thought about that statement in light of all the questions they are emailing to the woman that made the statement.
Thanks for the reply. So I take it that if Obama Sr is his father then Obama loses the natural born citizen status (due to dual British citizenship)?
Also, are you going to ask Fukino for more specifics than "Hawaii"?
BTTT
Oh, I have alot more that I have asked and am awaiting her reply!
bttt
This is what I requested from Ms. Okubo this morning:
Ms. Okubo-
Under the Uniform Information Practices Act of the State of Hawaii, “...the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible.”
Please send me an electronic copy of the written criteria, that must be satisfied, by which the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health determines that a person, whose vital records she has statutory authority over, is a natural-born American citizen.
Please send me an electronic copy of any written communications between the Hawaii Department of Health and Barack Obama or anyone claiming to represent Barack Obama concerning Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, certificate of live birth, certification of live birth, and/or supplementary birth certificate or certification of live birth from Jan. 1, 2008 through July 29, 2009.
Please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s SUPPLEMENTARY BIRTH CERTIFICATE on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
If you have no confirmation on any or all of the above, please send me that, too.
Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.
You don’t have a “tangible interest” in obtaining his vital records, so according to Hawaii Statutes only Obama can show us his BC.
We have to work with what we got.
That is where we keep the pressure on. Demonstrations saying
“Hey Obama, What are you hiding?!!!!”
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