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"END OF LIFE COUNSELING"
The Edisto Joe Outlook ^ | 07/29/2009 | Edisto Joe

Posted on 07/29/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT by Edisto Joe

It's a nice lazy summer afternoon, you've just finished lunch and are getting ready to head out with some of your other retired buddies for a round of golf. There's a knock at the door and you go to see who it is. "Good afternoon sir, I'm with the Health Department of the U.S. Government." "Your on our list as being over 65 years of age and on Medicare." "We need to talk to you about how much longer you intend to live." As you stare in disbelief, he continues..." We are required by law to counsel you on your intentions of using life sustaining drugs or hospital procedures in the event you become ill." "If you sign this form, we can withhold such treatments and procedures from you, by law, and thus hasten your demise and in return you will be doing your country a great service by decreasing the surplus population." (apologies to Charles Dickens). There are several scenarios as to what happens next but unfortunately they all involve jail time for the poor fellow who answered the knock at the door.

Welcome to National Health Care. "End of life Counseling" is being dismissed by Obama as nothing more than informing people about the need for a "living will" and that it's something everyone should have. He was taking questions from a group from AARP. He also went on to inform them that such stories as the one above are meant to misrepresent and misinform the public about his plan. The opponents of National Health Care will say anything to scare you and to keep you from having it. He also went on to say that there aren't enough government workers to go out and talk to all the elderly in the nation who are currently on Medicare.

Obama needs to read his own bill. It does have a provision for mandatory counseling of Medicare recipeients and the government is in charge of making it happen. What he should have said if he was being truthful..."We don't have enough workers yet!". If he can find some 30 plus people to be "Czars", how hard will it be to find interviewers?

The freedom to live ones life without government intrusion is sacred. To try and keep you from extending your life by taking full advantage of our medical technology and advances is criminal, not to mention Un-American! Their only purpose is to cut their expenses in administering the Medicare program which you have been taxed for your entire working life! They will do anything and say anything to get this bill passed. Don't by into it, Don't let them do it. I have posted a link to contact on the right side of this blog page. There you will find all the contact information for your Congressional Representatives. Stand up for your rights and let them know you want Government out of your personal life!

Edisto Joe

The Edisto Joe Outlook


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: donttalkcost; endoflife; healthcare; obamacarecost
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"END OF LIFE COUNSELING"
1 posted on 07/29/2009 8:34:15 AM PDT by Edisto Joe
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To: Edisto Joe

Euthanasia.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 8:37:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Edisto Joe

I am 69 years old, when/if someone shows up to discuss end of life issues with me I am going to tell them to “F” OFF. My great aunt lived to be 115 3/4 and I just might decide to do the same!


3 posted on 07/29/2009 8:40:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Soylent Green. Logan’s Run.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 8:40:07 AM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Edisto Joe
The freedom to live ones life without government intrusion is sacred.

I agree. And even half the country believed that, we wouldn't be in the fix we're in.

5 posted on 07/29/2009 8:40:32 AM PDT by marron
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To: Edisto Joe

I bet they have a hard time finding anyone to volunteer for the job of end-of-life counselor.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 8:40:39 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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I bet they have a hard time finding anyone to volunteer for the job of end-of-life counselor.

If an End-Of-Life Counselor shows up on my door, I will be glad to show him how important it would be for society, if only he WOULD end his life.

7 posted on 07/29/2009 8:43:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Edisto Joe

All the same counseling or no, I imagine there will come a time when I have DNR tattooed on my chest by my own choice.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 8:43:53 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Edisto Joe

Tell them to get off your property or YOU will END their life !


9 posted on 07/29/2009 8:44:09 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Edisto Joe
Obama "CARE" for the aged, infirm and seriously ill:

"You are too old, too sick, too... (fill in the blank) so OBEY; shut up, lie down, take a pain pill and DIE!"

Isn't it wonderous to see how much Obama and the democratically controled congress that are trying to shove this abomination down our throats (while they maintain their own private "Lexus Healthcare" for themselves and their extended families) "love" us and how "concerned" they are about our physical welfare?

10 posted on 07/29/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (tot)
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All over France bed-ridden old folks are being trundled
into stuffy attics so their children can go on vacation.

I’m sure 0’s people are looking into this practice.


11 posted on 07/29/2009 8:45:00 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Edisto Joe
EUTHANIZE OBAMACARE, STAT!
12 posted on 07/29/2009 8:45:16 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (CITIZENS OF LIBERTY! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE EVIL BEAST, OBAMUNISM!)
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To: Edisto Joe
The counseling is to prepare you for what is to come. Say you are 75 and survived a previous heart attack 10 years ago, but have had on and off angina. A cardiac cath and stent would give you years of quality life, but government bureaucrats looking at your health records will say no because of your age, history of obesity and that you were a smoker. You might receive generic medications for angina, but none of the more expensive drugs that would allow you some quality of life. You spend the rest of your remaining few years debilitated and hardly able to leave your home. If you have a heart attack there are government mandated no code, no treatment orders that will assure you die.
13 posted on 07/29/2009 8:47:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Lazamataz

I agree. I don’t know anyone tht would be the least bit civil to one of these people. It’s probably going to be one of the worst civil service jobs available.


14 posted on 07/29/2009 8:50:50 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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I’m a senior. Hell - the counseling’s gonna be FREE ain’t it? One session every five years? I DEMAND counseling twice a month!! I paid in all those years! I got my rights!! It’s FREE, dammit! I want all I can get!


15 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:39 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: The Great RJ

It’ll probably result in a huge black-market medical industry.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:55 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Edisto Joe

They will convince people that it is selfish for them to take up resources that are precious and scarce.

Of course, with the Obamists in charge, a lot of things are going to become scarce, so there is some logic to this.

And the kind of people who vote for Obamists don’t much believe in life, and weren’t going to do anything anyway.

Seriously, this is where we wind up when a preponderance of people think that life is a cost rather than an ultimate value, that government is a source rather than a means to an end. That the living represent a load on the system rather than the purpose of the system.

I’ve often said that the interesting arguments are all on the conservative side, and its true, we don’t all agree on exactly how to skin which cats. But we share a respect for certain eternal principles, which means that however crazy some of us may be we share at the heart some common truths.

But when you are arguing with the Obamists you are dealing with a soul-sickness that makes discussion all but impossible. The problem here can’t be solved with politics because it goes so much deeper than politics. We have to defeat them and we need to evangelize them. You can’t share power with someone who doesn’t believe in life and doesn’t believe in liberty in the first place.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:59 AM PDT by marron
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In direct violation of the Constitution:

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of LIFE, liberty, or property....


18 posted on 07/29/2009 8:57:20 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: stuartcr
It’ll probably result in a huge black-market medical industry.

Bingo. Exactly.

Restricted to the people who can pay for it.

In other words, in the interest of trying to make medical care more widely accessible, we are going to make it less available, and we are going to shift the advantage even more toward the moneyed class. Money and connections always gets you better treatment, and under Obamacare this will be even more true than it is now. This is something people don't get; central control always begets oligarchy. More central control begets more oligarchy.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 8:59:38 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Like now, only worse.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 9:02:08 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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