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Are there any thoughts or references about my suspicion, or arguments on why it is false?
1 posted on 07/26/2009 1:46:23 PM PDT by poiuqwer
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To: poiuqwer

Answer: Yes


2 posted on 07/26/2009 1:50:10 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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What’s the brand or make of the 1TB XTHD? I have one as well..


3 posted on 07/26/2009 1:50:56 PM PDT by max americana
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Obama hacked into your files, just to make sure you didn’t have a copy of his BC.


4 posted on 07/26/2009 1:50:59 PM PDT by library user
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Because when I have a USB external hard drive, I call the manufacturer and send it back. No, actually, I just buy a new one. Typically, after a few months/years, they provide more capacity for memory for cheaper anyways. And I actually prefer firewire external drives over USB.

However, I wouldn’t be surprised if hidden viruses are shipped on them when you purchase them.


6 posted on 07/26/2009 1:53:24 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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Interesting theory. Perhaps a little too complex but reasonable to assume that if you return a drive to China, someone will be officially tasked with finding out what’s on it.


7 posted on 07/26/2009 1:53:44 PM PDT by fso301
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Since you are technical, take the drive out of the case and attach it directly to your computer’s disk controller, using the appropriate IDE or SATA data and power cables.

You may also want to try mounting it on a Linux system, both as a USB device and, out of the box, as just another hard drive.

If the drive is truly dead, then get a BIG FAT MAGNET and bulk erase the drive before returning it. That should erase most if not all of your data. I believe there are even bulk erase machines that could do an even better job of it.


8 posted on 07/26/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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Well, I can't comment on your paranoia, but I wouldn't ship anything back to anyone with sensitive data on it. Any reason why you can't remove the hard drive and access it with a sata cable? I've never had one apart so I'm asking if at some level they are not just plugged into a USB to SATA converter. If you could, then you could retrieve your data and erase the drive before shipping it back. If not, the very minimum of taking a huge magnet to it might work?
9 posted on 07/26/2009 1:55:39 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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One of my clients, a major midwest refinery, does not permit the use of USB flash drives for security reasons.


10 posted on 07/26/2009 1:55:47 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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You may want to contact the following:

Central Intelligence Agency
Office of Public Affairs
Washington, D.C. 20505
Phone

(703) 482-0623

FAX: (703) 482-1739


11 posted on 07/26/2009 1:55:54 PM PDT by Signalman
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12 posted on 07/26/2009 1:56:59 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Most of these are just a harddrive wrapped in complex plastic, so if you really wanted to make sure it was a USB problem you could crack that beast open and plug the drive into the computer.

Do people really send these things in for repair? My drive busted I just bought a new one. Since it’s just a backup anyway I couldn’t lose anything. And do the Chinese really need our illegal MP3s? That’s what occupies most of the space on these things.


16 posted on 07/26/2009 2:00:53 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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You ship it to an address in the US.

They probably just check to see it is one of theirs, send you another one, and throw it out.


17 posted on 07/26/2009 2:01:45 PM PDT by proxy_user
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a terabyte and multiples thereof is a LOT of data, probably mostly used by corporate and gummint agencies. Your concern seems entirely plausible to me, and as one who has opened every HD I have ever discarded in order to destroy the actual physical media, I will continue to do so......but I have the luxury of needing another lifetime or two before actually needing more than 60 or so gigs, LOL


19 posted on 07/26/2009 2:03:55 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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I would never ship back any drive that has data on it, period- replacements are too inexpensive. For the same reason I assemble my own external drives (really, really easy), that way I have control over what parts are used and can easily swap drives if data needs to be recovered from another.

As to the espionage theories...with electronics almost anything is possible.

22 posted on 07/26/2009 2:07:42 PM PDT by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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For $100.00—take a hammer to it....I completely agree with you. I bought a used pc a few years ago, got it home booted it, and it booted...To my surprise, it was a pc from a VERY big computer company with what appeared to be confidential info. I called the local branch and they switched me around for a few minutes until I got a tech guy that almost laughed when I told what I had. He stopped laughing when I read a few emails from one of the exec’s. They requested that I bring the pc to them for cleaning and I did. They were to call me to pick it up the next day. Never heard from them and they tech guy would not respond to my calls. Basically, for my good deeds, I lost $50.00....Next time, I will build a website and post the data for everyone to see,,,,


24 posted on 07/26/2009 2:11:22 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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i think its absurd for being so paranoid. Who are you? That the Chinese want to know your secret. Waste of time assigning millions of man hours sniff through nobodies just so they could magically stumble on some top secret information they could use. Theres better ways of putting that resources to good use

Recently I had to send my hdd to singapore to get it fixed under warranty. Maybe they too want to know my SECRETS


26 posted on 07/26/2009 2:15:57 PM PDT by 4rcane
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Yuck. You actually thought buying a USB drive at Costco was a good idea for a secure back up?

Either way I would simply take it out of its enclosure and hook it directly up to the mainboard and see if the drive itself is dead. If it is get a heavy magnet and sit it on the drive for a couple of days at least. Wven then I still wouldnt be secure with the thought of sending it in.

If the drive is good buy a new enclosure from Newegg. However I doubt it is. Cheap external drives have poor air cirulation which kills the drive.


28 posted on 07/26/2009 2:16:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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I just had a problem with a Seagate (internal) hard drive. Turned out to be a "Firmware" issue!

Seagate has the drive, updated the firmware, and will ship it back to me Monday. They made an image of this drive in case it's lost during shipping, or DOA.

I have been told by Seagate this image will be erased in 14 days. To me Seagate tech support has been fantastic with this added level of data protection.

Bottom line - if you ever need data recovery off a DOA hard drive, understand others will, and can see what was stored.

30 posted on 07/26/2009 2:20:15 PM PDT by Dacus943
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That sounds like a lot of trouble for China to go through when they can simply put a virus on your Windows computer and steal your data immediately.


31 posted on 07/26/2009 2:22:00 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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"Even if you are paranoid, that doesn't mean that people are not out to get you."

Just kidding.

Does the external drive use a separate power supply or a second USB plug for additonal power? I bet the unit does since it has a 1 TB capacity. It could be that your power supply isn't working or the DC connection inside one or both USB cables could be open. In either case, that would give you the error message. You could check this out by using a digital multimeter to check for the voltages (USB = +5V, external power supply as marked).

And I agree with post #8. The inside of the drive box probably consists of a USB controller on a PCB connected via cables to a conventional SATA (serial) or IDE (parallel) drive. If this is the case, disconnect the USB part and try connecting the drive itself directly to your IDE or SATA port. If the bare drive works, that says that the USB interface is bad.

Please come on back and tell us what you found.
33 posted on 07/26/2009 2:25:41 PM PDT by normanpubbie
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