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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition Category: Roundups | Comments(15)

Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: emergencypreparation; food; frugal; frugality; garden; gf; gluten; glutenfree; granny; hunger; jm; nwarizonagranny; prep; prepper; preppers; preps; starvation; stinkbait; survival; survivalists; wcgnascarthread
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Interesting, I had heard of it and not tried it.

Do you take the chlorella ?


4,021 posted on 11/01/2009 2:39:48 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
The kidney beans are VERY tasty, I had NO idea that spaghetti sauce flavored broth plus Kidney Beans was a tasty combo. (It just doesn't make any sense to me -- particularly when in past years I've read lots & lots of "budget" cookbooks, and have never seen any thing whatsoever about light red kidney beans & tomato sauce.

If you ever try this specific combo, you'll see what I mean...

However... in order to have the soup LOOK appealing, it's really mandatory to have the white navy beans, I don't know how lima beans (aka: butter beans) would taste, but I presume a little bit sour, given the tomato. I like the navy beans fine.

It is bizarre how the light red kidney beans are so close in color to the red broth, that they seem to just meld in, occasionally, one doesn't notice them at all; also, the white navy beans look real pretty next to the dark green spinach and light green celery.

Thank you for sharing your Mexican Soup recipe -- I am bound & determined to make some type of "tortilla" soup -- but currently, have run into a large number of unadvertised special clearance sales of foods which must be cooked and/or consumed quickly, LOL

4,022 posted on 11/01/2009 2:44:39 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DelaWhere

She would routinely turn her nose up at the best quality alfalfa hay and stand on her hind legs to ‘prune’ lower tree branch leaves - including holly trees. Never figured that out.<<<<

LOL, I read a book once.

It was a study of a herd of goats that had gone wild in the hills of England, they studied it for several years and it was a wonderful read, to finally understand how it worked for them.

There will be a lead nanny and buck, they are the rulers, the nanny rules over the buck even.

They lived at night in a cave, it had many years of dung collected in it, several feet deep, that kept them warm at night and comfortable.

Each morning, they had a regular route, on which they ate a variety of plants, 6 bites of this, only 3 of that and so on, for a wide variety.

If some young kid, decided they were not interested in eating the plant at that stop, the herd stopped and nanny did not allow the kid to leave until he had the needed number of the bites from that plant.

Said Nanny could get nasty, if the kid really resisted, but the troop was not going on, until junior had eaten what he was told to.

Knowing the plant values, they could say that they ate that to keep the bowels just right, not too much or too little.

The next one might be pure vitamins and minerals and when the tour was done, they had eaten a balanced diet.

The rest of the day was normal, what one would expect to see wild goats eating, but it was the morning tour that I found so interesting.

Sorry, I don’t own a copy of the book, published in England around 1970.

I found it in the Yuma library.


4,023 posted on 11/01/2009 2:49:09 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All; WestCoastGal; Wneighbor

This showed up in one of my google alerts:

http://www.azpsg.com/showthread.php?t=4571

stolen psd with trailer with baby donkey inside-please read
i am posting this here hoping one of us might see this truck, no telling where it will end up
please pass on to others

?
Mini Donkey jack was stolen today inside a trailer hooked to a truck at Town East Mall at lunch. The truck is a 2005 white King Ranch Super Cab F250 diesel, with DNKEY lisence plates and a gotdonkey sticker on the back window The trailer is a ww 14’ stocker in Arizona Beige lisence plate DDXX20, that was purchased at WW trailers in Madill Oklahoma. The baby jack is about 24” tall, bright red, and answers to Sunny. He needs his mother, and cannos be left out in a field to fend for himself, he is too young. Please help us find him-we do not care about the truck and trailer, just bring him home. The police think the thieves may just drop the trailer or dump him out, and part out the truck. REWARD OFFERED, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Please call us at 972-226-6386 home or 817-729-7700, cell. Prayers are also appreciated.

Location: Mesquite Texas


4,024 posted on 11/01/2009 3:30:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: hennie pennie
Fried Cabbage with Bacon, Onion, and Garlic

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe-Tools/Print/Recipe.aspx?RecipeID=196732&origin=detail&servings=6

4,025 posted on 11/01/2009 6:15:27 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Eagle50AE
???? OH,.. my country a gets it.. please excuse my tardiness. bye..bye

Huh! I are confused now. Do you mean the NJ and NY elections, among others?
4,026 posted on 11/01/2009 9:27:27 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny
After a day on the tractor, I did home work, took care of my 2 smaller brothers and cooked for the 4 of us. I was 12 years old, when I returned to California. My Dad had found me a husband and when my Mom found out she had a fit, not that I can blame her, she was married at 15, so a neighbor, helped her get us and put us on the Greyhound, to her in Calif. I thought everyone worked like that, never doubted that I wasn’t to go to the field every day, for if you don’t there will not be a crop. No electric, no refrigerators, no running water, go out to the cow trough and get a bucket of water, from the windmill. How different life is today.

We need to compile all your posts and write a biography about your, granny. You've led some life!
4,027 posted on 11/01/2009 9:30:01 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You’d think people would know that pesto is made with pine nuts. Maybe not.


4,028 posted on 11/01/2009 10:08:42 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I have only heard of it, like you... I may order it and start taking it to help clear toxins. I don’t know what kind of stuff is unleashed during dialysis. It does let loose a bunch of free radicals.


4,029 posted on 11/01/2009 10:13:29 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: hennie pennie

I hope you like it... I really enjoy it with the enchilada sauce.


4,030 posted on 11/01/2009 10:15:03 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: All

Public Produce - The New Urban Agriculture

Public Produce makes a uniquely contemporary case not for central government intervention,
but for local government involvement in shaping food policy.

In what Darrin Nordahl
calls “municipal agriculture,” elected officials, municipal planners, local policymakers,
and public space designers are turning to the abundance of land under public control
(parks, plazas, streets, city squares, parking lots, as well as the grounds around
libraries, schools, government offices, and even jails) to grow food.


Africa’s urban farmers increase income through absentee agriculture

When I met Eunice Wangari at a Nairobi coffee shop recently, I was surprised to
hear her on her mobile phone, insistently asking her mother about the progress of
a corn field in her home village, hours away from the big city. A nurse, Wangari
counts on income from farming to raise money to buy more land - for more farming.

Even though Wangari lives in Kenya’s capital, she is able to reap hundreds of dollars
a year in profits from cash crops grown with the help of relatives.

Her initial stake - drawn from her nursing wages of about $350 a month - has long
since been recovered.


New Vancouver urban farm built on asphalt parking lot

A pilot farming project in Canada’s poorest area code is bringing dirt - without
the hurt - to Vancouver’s gritty Downtown Eastside.

Volunteers worked tirelessly Saturday to build a community garden. Although urban
community gardens are becoming common sights across Metro Vancouver, the East Hastings
Street location is quite different because it will be a fully functional farm once
completed.

“They’ll be growing vegetables that will be sold to restaurants and the like in
the Downtown Eastside,” Projects in Place Society’s Bryce Gauthier told CTV News.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All stories here.
City Farmer News [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102799888920&s=1304&e=001A54gLIBtwOmhjOnik0vzBCvN2NpL4OHwHFjZfnOQv3n9ur0c4Y38pVcpt0cZ90JTHzkX9e-Y7SfzVxX5HAozzYMioglAZlgVgOgxinSrKgmGO-sToSiO1w==]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Michael Levenston
City Farmer - Canada’s Office of Urban Agriculture


4,031 posted on 11/02/2009 5:40:41 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

We need to compile all your posts and write a biography about your, granny. You’ve led some life!<<<

LOL, I guess a common, normal life would wind up boring me.

So much that i wanted to do in this one and will not get done.


4,032 posted on 11/02/2009 5:45:33 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

You’d think people would know that pesto is made with pine nuts. Maybe not.<<<<

Not on my recently made list, but I think of it as being made with Basil.

LOL, how is that for mixing things in my memory.


4,033 posted on 11/02/2009 5:46:45 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I may order it and start taking it to help clear toxins. I don’t know what kind of stuff is unleashed during dialysis. It does let loose a bunch of free radicals.<<<

I was thinking of all that stuff from my lungs, it has to be poison.


4,034 posted on 11/02/2009 5:47:39 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: hennie pennie
I came across this recipe last night, and so many comments were so complimentary, that I decided to make it this morning - but I made about a 1/4 portion.

I have NO idea how the original recipe creater used 3 T. - yep, THREE TABLESPOONS of salt in the full version recipe.

Evidentally the webmasters at AllRecipes.com changed her 3 to one tablespoon.

I'm curious if her recipe and plenty of the comments comprise some kind of online hoax -- as really, this stuff was terrible, what a sad waste of 3 slices of bacon, LOLOL!!

You know when something is SO bad that it makes you laugh?? Yep, THAT bad!! LOL

Here is the original, non-print version of the recipe, which has lots of favorable observations. (( LOL! ))

Fried Cabbage with Bacon, Onion, and Garlic - All Recipes dot Com

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Fried-Cabbage-with-Bacon-Onion-and-Garlic/Detail.aspx

4,035 posted on 11/02/2009 6:11:03 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All
SHOCK! Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine? (updated at 05:39 pm)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2374394/posts

4,036 posted on 11/02/2009 6:58:10 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: All; nw_arizona_granny
Ukraine Bans Big Crowds to Combat Swine Flu
October 31, 2009 - New York Times

MOSCOW — "The Ukrainian government is taking some of the sternest measures in the world against the spread of the swine flu virus, ordering schools nationwide to close for three weeks, banning public gatherings and imposing restrictions on travel...The virus is spreading across Eastern Europe, but it was not clear why Ms. Tymoshenko chose to undertake stronger moves, like closing schools nationwide, than her counterparts in Russia and Poland.

There were indications, however, that the government's response was being influenced by electoral politics. Ms. Tymoshenko, one of the leading candidates, and her bitter rival, President Viktor A. Yushchenko, who is far behind in opinion polls in his bid for re-election, both sought to make clear that they were aggressively addressing the outbreak...On Friday, Mr. Yushchenko criticized Ms. Tymoshenko, saying that he had ordered an inquiry into why the country was not, in his opinion, prepared."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/world/europe/01ukraine.html

4,037 posted on 11/02/2009 7:25:41 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere
>> CIT Files For Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection <<

and as predicted by “economists” the Dow is gaining early today..

go figure.. who's wagging who ??

Yea, and the administration is already in “Damage Control” mode preparing for Tomorrow's elections..

Ping to the survival list:

U.S. Inflation to Appear Next in Food and Agriculture

Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:40pm EDT

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS199272+30-Oct-2009+PRN20091030

(small excerpt):
With crude oil back above $80 per barrel, we will soon see a renewed interest
in alternative energy. This will create increased demand for wheat, corn and
sugar which are used to make ethanol and other biofuels. A massive rise in
agriculture prices is just around the corner.
(end)

Besides having your bug out food stored, here's some
items to remember:

SPARE:
Fuel for Generator
Fuel for Alternate Heating ( kerosene, propane, etc..)
Batteries
Oil and filters for engine services
replacement fluids for vehicles (brake,antifreeze,etc)
pet and or farm animal food
medical supplies/prescription supply, first-aid,etc

ALTERNATE Communication solutions to stay informed and in contact with family and friends..

( Broadcast band Radios, Shortwave ,FRS etc..)

WEB SITES / EMAIL

What would you do if FR went the way of Pastor Manning on utube(sic).. ???

It Could Happen..

Plan Now..

Personal Note: I have followed the ham/shortwave traffic and prices for over 15 years and have NEVER, NEVER seen such market and exorbitant prices for radios and equipment.

Again, let me pass along a scenario roaming the web,which deserves prudent consideration:

(unidentified source):

“If Tuesday's election results are Close or a Loss for the PTB, the efforts will only be doubled to beat down the opposition.. future possibilities may prove to be a pipe dream..”

4,038 posted on 11/02/2009 7:28:48 AM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

The CIT bankruptcy is a huge story. They fund many retailers... Christmas was going to be tough for them anyway with 10% unemployment, now it will be even tougher for stores to get inventory on time. Wow.


4,039 posted on 11/02/2009 11:20:04 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

The chorella would do you a lot of good, I’m sure.

I just got this via email:

THE YEAR 1909

This will boggle your mind, I know it did mine!

The year is 1909.
One hundred years ago.
What a difference a century makes!

Here are some statistics for the Year 1909 :
*********************************************************
The average life expectancy was 47 years.
Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.
Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.
There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles of paved roads.
The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.
The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower!

The average wage in 1909 was 22 cents per hour.
The average worker made between $200 and $400 per year.
A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, a dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.

More than 95 percent of all births took place at HOME. Ninety percent of all doctors had NO COLLEGE EDUCATION! Instead, they attended so-called medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press AND the government as ‘substandard. ‘

Sugar cost four cents a pound.
Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.
Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.

Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used borax or egg yolks for shampoo.
Canada passed a law that prohibited poor people from entering into their country for any reason.

Five leading causes of death were:
1. Pneumonia and influenza
2. Tuberculosis
3. Diarrhea
4. Heart disease
5. Stroke

The American flag had 45 stars.

The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was only 30!!!!
Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and ice tea hadn’t been invented yet.

There was no Mother’s Day or Father’s Day.

Two out of every 10 adults couldn’t read or write. Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school.

Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at the local corner drugstores. Back then pharmacists said, ‘Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health’
(Wow)

Eighteen percent of households had at least one full-time servant or domestic help.

There were about 230 reported murders in the ENTIRE U.S.A.! (Mainly because there was a firearm of some sort in almost every home! An armed society is a POLITE society!!)

I am now going to forward this to someone else without typing it myself. From there, it will be sent to others all over the WORLD - all in a matter of seconds! Try to imagine what it may be like in another 100 years.

IT STAGGERS THE MIND


4,040 posted on 11/02/2009 11:47:31 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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