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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition Category: Roundups | Comments(15)

Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks for the warning, granny. My furkids eat a different brand, but it’s still nice to know.

I think that’s the same mineral that needs to be added to a cat’s diet when they are fed a homemade food. I have several tubes set aside, just in case I can no longer buy pet food and have to figure out how to feed them myself. Along with the rest of us humans!


3,441 posted on 10/22/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Marmolade
Welcome back! Tell your son ‘congratulations and thank you for your service’ from us. I know the pride you felt as you watched the graduation ceremony. Where was your son’s training location? We came out to San Diego for our son’s graduation.

Thanks, Marm. Yes, I was so proud, I embarassed myself by crying through the whole thing. I've never really felt his way before, such overwhelming emotion and pride - not just for my son, but every single airman and airwoman (?) out there. After all the US-bashing by those in DC and all over, I felt so at home there, where the flag was respected, and never wanted to leave.

Is your son in the Navy then? Mine is in the Air Force and all the basic training is in Lackland AFB, in San Antonio. They said they graduated 40,000 airmen a year! There were probably 500 on that Friday that went through the ceremony. I have to say that synchronized swimmers have nothing on our military - and only after 8 weeks!

My hubby said he thought all the Navy basic was in SD now - he went though it in Chicago, in winter! (But was then stationed in SD and loved the weather).
3,442 posted on 10/22/2009 10:24:37 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny


Wonderful!!! [They are both asleep!!!]


Spoken like a true cat mom!

They are fine, for 2 orphans, it did not take them long to learn how to give orders that will be followed [by me], for I have the battle scars to prove it.


;) Somehow, even the ferals figure out how to train us. I am constantly amazed how the strays I find, after just a day or two, feel like they are in charge of the place and don't even seem grateful for the new home!

TT will be a giant cat, for she wants both canned and dry food dishes full at all times and goes wild if one is empty.


Thank goodness you found him. He never would've gotten enough food outside.

Purr Baby is the same about her cheese, either there is cheese in her dish, or she bites and gets in a scratch now and then, and I bleed all over the place.


Her and her love of cheese is so cute!
3,443 posted on 10/22/2009 10:33:18 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Wonderful! [They are both asleep!!!]

Spoken like a true cat mom!

They are fine, for 2 orphans, it did not take them long to learn how to give orders that will be followed [by me], for I have the battle scars to prove it.


;) Somehow, even the ferals figure out how to train us. I am constantly amazed how the strays I find, after just a day or two, feel like they are in charge of the place and don't even seem grateful for the new home!

TT will be a giant cat, for she wants both canned and dry food dishes full at all times and goes wild if one is empty.


Thank goodness you found him. He never would've gotten enough food outside.

Purr Baby is the same about her cheese, either there is cheese in her dish, or she bites and gets in a scratch now and then, and I bleed all over the place.


Her and her love of cheese is so cute!
3,444 posted on 10/22/2009 10:34:08 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

thx thx


3,445 posted on 10/22/2009 11:44:28 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All

Solar Panels...

>>>210 watts times $3 per watt
is $630<<<

Some companies are touting their costs of production at under $1.00 per watt..... BUT - the rest of the story isn’t pretty... The rating is at peak sunlight which only occurs for a short time during the day - Number of sunlight days varies (after 5 straight days of clouds I can attest to that) Installation runs about 2.5X the panel costs - Storage costs (chargers, inverters, switches, meters, wiring) are about 3X the panels costs - PLUS the conversions are not 100% efficient by any means...

So with an investment of around $2,000 I can be assured of being able to turn on one 100 watt light bulb when I want to. At the national average rate for a kilowatt hour, I would need to use that bulb for 16,666.67 hours to break even.

Other potential considerations might be solar concentrators which are more efficient in the energy conversion and produce heat and hot water along with the electricity and are somewhat less in cost.

Quite possibly nuclear is the best answer - particularly with some of the newer smaller scale thinking.

“Nuclear power plants smaller than a garden shed and able to power 20,000 homes will be on sale within five years, say scientists at Los Alamos, the US government laboratory which developed the first atomic bomb.

The miniature reactors will be factory-sealed, contain no weapons-grade material, have no moving parts and will be nearly impossible to steal because they will be encased in concrete and buried underground.

The US government has licensed the technology to Hyperion, a New Mexico-based company which said last week that it has taken its first firm orders and plans to start mass production within five years. ‘Our goal is to generate electricity for 10 cents a kilowatt hour anywhere in the world,’ said John Deal, chief executive of Hyperion. ‘They will cost approximately $25m [£16m] each. For a community with 10,000 households, that is a very affordable $2,500 per home.’”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/09/miniature-nuclear-reactors-los-alamos

(Note: they have firm sales from the Czech Republic, Romania, and many other countries. None scheduled for U.S. - We are still throwing obstacles in the way. Maybe that is why France gets 80% of their power from nuclear and we are far far behind.)

Could we afford it?

Let’s see.... $787 Billion in recovery/tarp/whatever spending = 31,480 Mini Power Systems @ $25 million each. - hey that would be enough power for 629 million homes - Way more than we have - Gee, maybe we would be able to then do the electric car thingy sensibly... Nah, that might make sense - we can’t do anything like that. We might become power rich and the other nations would be jealous. Let’s give that money to a few deep pockets and some of our foreign enemies - just to keep things even...

Whatever we do, we need to be utilizing co-generation. It makes no sense to generate electricity and throw away most of the heat into the air and water, then we burn more fuel to heat our homes and let a major portion of the heat go up the chimney, then we burn more fuel and heat water with most of that energy going up into the air. same with our cooking, driving, and basically everything we do... Somehow we need to integrate systems to more fully utilize the energy in our fuels.

LOL, OK, now off my soapbox...


3,446 posted on 10/22/2009 1:03:55 PM PDT by DelaWhere ("The systemic risk today is the Congress of the United States." --Republican Senator Judd Gregg)
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To: CottonBall

“Is your son in the Navy then?”
He’s a Marine. He was at MCRD-San Diego. Yep, it sure is a different feel on base then in our general society.


3,447 posted on 10/22/2009 4:26:36 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade

oops. then=than

Hubby came home and handed me the mail. Got a bit distracted.


3,448 posted on 10/22/2009 4:40:49 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: All

http://www.archive.org/details/HydroAndSoilHowTo

[Appears to be 4 movies on this page]

hydro and soil how to (2009)
click to play movieclick to play movie
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embed this

basic TEK. each type of hydro explained (aero, DWC, NFT, EbbFlow). Outside watering large and small. focus on homemade materials. includes how to make your own fertilizer, carbon and soil. outlines use of lights. planting seasons. i don’t think i left anything out except there is a pic of chart that i lead u to believe is a chem chart but it’s just liquid organics. and fyi, the pink cross-section in the background is a sequoia tip.

it’s loud fast colorful and has great trivia and jokes. if you are not a speed reader then u may need the pause button or multiple viewings.

This movie is part of the collection: Open Source Movies

Audio/Visual: sound, color
Language: written English


3,449 posted on 10/22/2009 6:21:00 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://www.archive.org/stream/ThingsYouNeverKnewAboutFema/fema_camps_full_djvu.txt

[There was a time that I believed all this, under clinton, then I figured it was tinfoil conspiracy under President Bush and today, I do not know what I think.

This link below has a full listing of the FEMA camps by state and other information........granny]

http://www.archive.org/stream/ThingsYouNeverKnewAboutFema/fema_camps_full_djvu.txt

Full text of “Things You Never Knew About FEMA”

A Word From B.A. Brooks

We have to look at all of the evidence and try to see the big picture. Could ALL of this information be
real and true, or are these just more conspiracy theories? Yes and No! There are many truths weaved in
between lies and misconceptions. Many things that people believe are simply not true, and many things
people do not want to believe are very true. Look into (HR 645), FM 3-19.40, Rex 84, Operation
Gardenplot, Operation Cable Splicer, CILFs (Civilian Inmate Labor Facilities) and Military Police
Internment/Resettlement Operations, because these are the real subjects to research and discuss. I have
been accused of trying to scare the mass population with this book, but in reality I am only presenting
news that I have researched, in one place for the world to see.

continued...

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And this is proof:

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[I copied a few samples of the googles, there are many more at the links...granny]


3,450 posted on 10/22/2009 7:26:41 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Joya

Taking care of urgent situation here at moment will look later.<<<<

Good luck.


3,451 posted on 10/22/2009 7:40:56 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Obama’s plan isn’t to take over other countries, just to take over and destroy this one.<<<

That is the message that I am getting too.

And he is frantic to do it in a hurry.


3,452 posted on 10/22/2009 7:41:55 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

We might need to learn how to make cardboard furniture soon, not for our pets. I have a supply of cardboard boxes from our last move that I’m saving for making Obamavilles.<<<

I really miss the old style double apple boxes of wood.

Stood on end, they were a working end table, 2 stacked and attached on the sides could be made into a fine doll house for the kids, 4 rooms and 2 stories.

And when the kids grew up, that doll house was just the right height for my table top loom to rest on when I was weaving, gave me the right tilt to make rugs, fabric or....?

Now we buy plastic and it isn’t safe to put anything on.


3,453 posted on 10/22/2009 7:46:26 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

I think that’s the same mineral that needs to be added to a cat’s diet when they are fed a homemade food. I have several tubes set aside, just in case I can no longer buy pet food and have to figure out how to feed them myself. Along with the rest of us humans!<<<

That is good to know.

Thanks.


3,454 posted on 10/22/2009 7:47:11 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Her and her love of cheese is so cute!<<<

She always leaves some for later.

TT, at last has found something to get excited over, he growls when he got control of the end of a bean burrito.


3,455 posted on 10/22/2009 7:48:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

So with an investment of around $2,000 I can be assured of being able to turn on one 100 watt light bulb when I want to. At the national average rate for a kilowatt hour, I would need to use that bulb for 16,666.67 hours to break even.<<<

You can make a wind generator out of a Franklin Rear end, mounted on a windmill tower.

Ben Gilbough did, about 1910 and he was still using it in 1965, at Ramona, california.

He was the original owner of my property there and still lived in his old home, full of real antiques.

Ben and Barney Oldfield invented the ‘Hot Tube’ the forerunner of todays spark plugs and I think hold/held the patent on it.

My 11 year old daughter fell in love with him and invited him to dinner, which turned out to be one of many that he joined us for.

I think he is the only intelligent person she ever listened to.


3,456 posted on 10/22/2009 7:53:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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MODERN
SURVIVAL

Outdoor Gear and Savvy
to Bring You Back Alive

D wight R. Schuh

David McKay Company, Inc.

N E \V YORK

COPYRIGHT © 1979 BY DWIGHT R. SCHUH

http://www.archive.org/stream/modernsurvivalou00schu/modernsurvivalou00schu_djvu.txt

Full book on line....


3,457 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:22 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Full text of “How To Make Money Online Ideas”

How To Make Money From Your Hobbies and Ideas

By Gary Drumm

http://www.archive.org/stream/HowToMakeMoneyOnlineIdeas/HowToMakeMoneyFromYourHobbiesAndIdeas-2005_djvu.txt

[A quick check and it looks interesting, somethings we all do and know.........granny]


3,458 posted on 10/22/2009 9:09:14 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.archive.org/details/HowToMakeAMilkCratePlanterBed

How to Make a Milk Crate Planter Bed
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(2008) Mariana Lopez, Graze the Roof

This movie is part of the collection: Open Source Movies

Producer: Mariana Lopez
Keywords: How to Make a Milk Crate Planter Bed; planter bed; graze the roof; how-to homestead


3,459 posted on 10/22/2009 9:13:30 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.archive.org/details/Scvtv20-hhs070709821

Watch this program and others like it in hi-res at SCVTV.comImproving Food Safety: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack answer your questions from Facebook and the White House website about the key findings of the Food Safety Working Group.July 7, 2009

This movie is part of the collection: blip.tv


3,460 posted on 10/22/2009 9:19:56 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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